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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 401 surging (Tom Jennings)
   2. Re: 401 surging/sock (John Elle)
   3. Re: 401 surging/sock (Tom Jennings)
   4. auto transport (Arfon)
   5. z code 401 matty for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   6. Re: socks and transports (Eddie Stakes)
   7. rustfree trough for sale $75/free delivery to Dayton
      (Eddie Stakes)
   8. 66 Ambassador parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
   9. SC/Rambler parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  10. 66 Classic/Marlin parts wanted/can pick up at Dayton
      (Eddie Stakes)
  11. 85 Eagle parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  12. 232 engine, misc parts wanted for Typhoon (Eddie Stakes)
  13. 71-74 Javelin wanted/pacific northwest (Eddie Stakes)
  14. 258 performance heads for sale (Eddie Stakes)
  15. Re: weather pack connectors (Matt Haas)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 surging
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607121447540.3970@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, russ hathaway wrote:

> Is a gas tank sock really needed? When I repaced the
> tank in my Hornet, the sock was almost gone. I tore it
> off, cleaned all the residue and installed it with an
> open end. I am running a cheapo filter just off the
> tank, then the fuel pump and a nice filter just before
> the engine. The mechanical pump has been stripped and
> is just plugging a hole. Isn't the sock just a
> strainer anyways.......Russ

The only problem I can see happening, and it's not THAT low a
probability, is if you were to get say a piece of tree leaf in
there, it could suck up flat against the angle-cut end of the
tube and totally cut off fuel.

You'd die cruisign flat an level on a freeway; pull over,
scratch head, car restarts, problem never recurs, because
the leaf moved out of the way while braking with engine off,
awaiting the next coincidence. Chalk it up to "oldcaritis".

Any old sort of crap screen on the end of the pickup would
reduce this probability to zero.

Aren't old cars fun?



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:20:20 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 surging/sock
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000201c6a609$c2489150$90dd0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Isn't the discussion of whether you have one or not rather moot anyway?
I have been unable to locate a source to purchase one at for quite a few
years now!
John


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:30:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 surging/sock
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607121527120.3970@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, John Elle wrote:

> Isn't the discussion of whether you have one or not rather moot anyway?
> I have been unable to locate a source to purchase one at for quite a few
> years now!

Well... I recently had mine out, on my 70 Hornet, and it was
split on one end, as many are... I pushed it back together,
ran a loop of iron wire over to hold it together, and hope
it'll keep moths, leaves, wood chips, whatever, out of the
pickup. Said large objects, I would rather not BE in the gas
tank in the first place!

I put a fuel filter between the steel line and pump input
anyways.  Belt AND suspenders!



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:15:19 -0500
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] auto transport
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060712191508.01d91468@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I have shipped a total of 4 cars (2 from California and 2 from Colorado to 
Texas)...

There's ALOT of shady auto-transport companies out there and ALOT of 
crooked-ness.  All of my transports went fine BUT, the first company 
(Southerland transport) that I used (and was happy with) later stiffed ALOT 
of people on the internet.  I couldn't believe the crap that they pulled on 
other people.

Here's a small sample: 
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/auto_trans/southerland.html

MOST people you contact (and get quotes from) are brokers.  They do not 
move the car.  They take your info and money, and post the pick-up/delivery 
on a auto-transporter's network.  They will charge you say $700 and they 
will skim about $300 off and then offer $400 for the transport to anyone 
going near your destinations.  They don't seem to have any quality control 
either (especially for us 'beater-car people').

Now that I have scared you, let me tell you how this works...


LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION:
If your pick-up and drop-off locations are along a major transport 
corridor, you prices will be low.  You can ship a car from LA to Northern 
Virginia cheaper than a car from North Carolina to Tennessee.  I get stuff 
delivered to Austin, Texas fairly cheap because it's off I-10 which is the 
southern east coast to west coast route.

SPLIT TRANSPORTS:
Brokers can be good because they can split the hauling between two 
carriers. One carrier can pick it up and drop it off at a lot then the 
other carrier can pick it up. This is DANGEROUS because if the second 
carrier doesn't pick up the car, you get charged lot fees and can EASILY 
lose the car.  Yes, you can sue the broker but, you won't get 
anything.  They just bankrupt that paper company and open a new one the 
next day.

NON-RUNNING:
If the car is non-running or the brakes don't work, alot of carriers won't 
touch it.  The ones that will, will charge you a $100-150 fee just for 
handling.


MY RECOMENDATION:
For the first two transports, I used brokers (and didn't think to get the 
name of the actual transporter).  For the third transport I located an 
actual transporter and not a broker.  I was happy with them so for my 4th 
transport, I called them back. They did 2 good transports for me.

	All in One Transport
	20854 Hwy 59 South, #11
	New Caney, Texas 77357
	281-354-6699
	All in One runs carriers all over the country.


MY TRANSPORTS:
1) Denver, Colorado to Austin, Texas / Southerland (broker) / ~$700 
(running car)
2) Northern California (coast) to Austin, Texas / ??? (broker) / ~$400 
(running car)
3) Flager, Colorado to Austin, Texas / All in 1 (transporter) / ~$700 
(non-running car)
4) Los Angeles, California to Austin, Texas / All in 1 (transporter) / 
~$500 (running car)





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:11:16 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] z code 401 matty for sale
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01d601c6a61c$143a7bb0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Below is a old auction of a 72 Matador 2door Z-code 401/4barrel i sold last 
year, it is for sale, I think a little too much for the fellow to restore. 
It is in minnesota and is listed in the AMO magazine and also in my SUAD 
lists, he is asking I believe $3400. Really unusual car, but needs going 
thru. Below is the auction itself:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4562427988&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3

and there are numerous photos of it in here, along with photos of the only 
known surviving 71 Matador Machine:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/matador_machine.htm
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:07:34 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] socks and transports
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01d501c6a61c$13fa1750$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Regarding the little socks inside the fuel tank, I have run a number of my 
cars without them and never had any trouble, but I also run not one, but two 
clear fuel filters on my cars that don't have those. My 68 Rebel convertible 
"Machine' has run this setup since 1986 and not one problem with the 401. 
Tom is right, about the only possibility of something happening is if a 
leaf, piece of paper or some foreign object somehow gets into the tank and 
cuts off flow. Chances of that however are low unless you have a real Hanes 
sock for a gas cap.

On the transports, several things here, if the car runs/drives, be sure to 
tell them as a inoperable vehicle usually costs $100-$200 more to ship. Also 
tell them "you are willing to wait until a truck comes thru" that is, they 
scout to see if any trucks will be coming thru that area and if so, if a 
open space, you are in. Sometimes takes 1-6 weeks however but usually drops 
the price also. Many shippers also are contract, so like cabbies, will toss 
what is thrown at them fare wise.

Here is a list of shippers I put in several of my ebay auctions; CSI here in 
Houston has transported over 50 cars for me. I also like Rebel Yell near 
Dallas.
CSI Transport 713-451-1515 or FAX 713-453-7889 Ask for Scott
Auto Transport Services Inc. 800-523-7182 or FAX 386-418-0132
Rebel Yell Transport 888-556-5770 or www.rytransport.com
PassPort Transport 800-325-4267; or 314-878-5777 or FAX 314-878-7295

One more thing, with fuel prices near $3, many shippers are charging "fuel 
surcharges" so watch that, whether it is shipping a car, or large item like 
hood, fender, make sure no hidden mysterious charges there.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:14:33 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] rustfree trough for sale $75/free delivery to
	Dayton
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: amcsignguy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01d901c6a61c$15137690$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

I have a nice passenger side gusset/trough that is from California and rust 
free. If purchased I will transport it to the national AMO show in Dayton 
for free. If your interested please let me know as soon as possible. PRICE: 
$75  Scott Domine amcsignguy@xxxxxxxxxxx 517-223-9349
==============================
anyone interested in a great deal get ahold of Scott above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:15:22 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 66 Ambassador parts wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: gary anderson <motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01da01c6a61c$155fc1d0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Wanted: 1966 AMC Ambassador 880 station wagon tail light lenses and one (or 
two if you have) chrome tail light bezels. I also need the crank for the 
tailgate window. And, the passenger side chrome headlight bezel, and the 
interior panels for the back cargo area (to cover up my fender wells). And 
about a bazillion other parts. Thanks. garett anderson 
motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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anyone that mgiht be able to help out give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:13:20 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SC/Rambler parts wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: jjocewicz@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01d701c6a61c$148455f0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

 Parts Needed: I am restoring an SC/Rambler. I am interested in any original 
correct parts you may have for sale. I am also looking for anyone who may 
carry the seat materials and/or anyone you may reccommend to restore the 
interior components. I am also in search of a good body/paint individual to 
restore the body. This car needs quarter, floor and rocker rust repair that 
I want done right. Joe Jocewicz jjocewicz@xxxxxxxxxxx 630-789-6063
=========================================
anyone that can help Joe give him a shout above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:18:42 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 66 Classic/Marlin parts wanted/can pick up at
	Dayton
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: nichols1597@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01e001c6a61c$170f4690$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

WANTED-1966 CLassic or Marlin Drivers side FRONT FENDER. I will be at the 
National Meet in Dayton, OH to pick it up. Also need the sheet metal Front 
Valance Panel (between grill and bumper). Kevin Nichols 
nichols1597@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 419-304-3589
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anyone can help them out give them a shout above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:17:33 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 85 Eagle parts wanted
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"Doug Shepard" <dshepard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: bob_goyette@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01df01c6a61c$16c2fb50$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Wanted: Door check spring for drivers front door on 1985 Eagle. aAlso 
passenger side power door lock switch.  Bob Goyette bob_goyette@xxxxxxxxxxx
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anyone that can help out give them a shout above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:23:35 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 232 engine, misc parts wanted for Typhoon
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01e501c6a61c$187bf5f0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

WANTED - Mid-60's 232 engine and auto trans for 64 Typhoon project. Also 
need windshield, rear glass, and left side door/quarter glass. Kenny 
Anderson, 65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx , Florida Gulf Coast, 941-423-9570.
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Bart, anyone here on your site in FL you know can hook him up with a engine 
perhaps?
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:30:44 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 71-74 Javelin wanted/pacific northwest
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: tjlovel@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01e901c6a61c$1984b360$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

 WANTED: 1971 to 1974 Javelin. I am desperately seeking a '71 to'74 Javelin 
project car in the Pacific Northwest. I can't find anything in this area. I 
am hoping somebody out there has one for sale, or knows somebody that has 
one for sale. Please help! Trisa Judt tjlovel@xxxxxxxxxxx (360) 440-0421
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anyone with any leads give him a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:21:56 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 258 performance heads for sale
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"Doug Shepard" <dshepard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <01e401c6a61c$1828a5d0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

 Jeep Performance Cylinder head Fresh 258 Performance reported Int-Exh- 
Conbustion chamber & large 2.0 s/s Intake and 1.5 Exh valve, 3 engle race 
valve job seat, light weight retainer, and modify aluminum Intake w/ 300 CFM 
Carburator model annular discharge and power valve ststem. 700.$ so 35% off 
value ! Perf strip-street Cam profile and lifter available add 200.$: Pierre 
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx 514 990 2691
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Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:17:42 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] weather pack connectors
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060712210917.027d9b48@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Before you go huntin' those connectors, be aware that you need some special 
tools to work with them (special crimper and terminal removal tool). I 
picked up a set of tools and starter kit from Summit racing for about $60 
several years ago when I was debutchering the wiring in a early 90's GMC 
S-15. BTW, you can buy connector bodies and terminals from a car dealer but 
you'll go broke doing it.

As far as the Painless harness goes, they're very high quality and Painless 
has excellent technical support. Their universal kits us a GM style fuse 
block and you can get GM style steering column plugs but I'd double check 
that AMC and GM use the same column pin outs. Also, American Autowire sells 
a bunch of different GM style steering column plug bodies and individual 
terminals if you need to make repairs.

Matt

At 03:21 AM 7/12/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>here in iraq, i work on trucks called a HET (heavy equipment transporter) 
>made by oshkosh. they got that detroit 8V92 series 2 stroke diesel 
>turbo/supercharged motors. i replace them quite often as these guys drive 
>the ever livin dog piss out of them almost nonestop. these trucks use 
>these weatherpack conectors thru almost the entire truck. they are GREAT. 
>i would recomend them to anyone. they got a great thru pannel connector 
>with maybe 18-20 wire terminals in it. cut a hole in the pannel the size 
>you need, 2 bolt holse on either side, bolt it to the pannel, and the 
>connector sits on the other side with a 1/4 stud on the other side of the 
>connector to hold it on the mounted side. they are water tight, and very 
>secure connections. since they came up on the list, i see they actually 
>sell them. i never knew that. hmm... been needing to rewire the 62 
>classic..... i guess im goin to have to get to gether everything i need 
>now to wire it with their connectors. wonder if you
>  could use a painless wiring kit, with these connectors??.... hmm.. 
> interesting.
>
>   by the way, has anyone on the list here ever rewired with one of them 
> painless wiring muscle car kits?? or any of the painless wiring kits at 
> all? just wondering how "painless" they really make it. heck, i been 
> rewiring HETS that have wires that are all black, just #'s on them. 
> anything with colors now will be NO PROBLEM. i am the only guy in our 
> unit who has any experience with electrical. anyway, have a great day all.
>
>   dave stohler
>   camp taji iraq
>
>
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