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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: eagle parts (Mark Price)
   2. '73 Matador 2-door for sale in Chicago (Justin Shelton)
   3. "When you're not welcome you don't hang around" (Mahoney, John)
   4. Matador Coupe parts wanted. (Matthew Gracie)
   5. scenes from the art car parade (Eddie Stakes)
   6. Fw: yep ramblers still exsist in australia! (Eddie Stakes)
   7. Re: Fw: yep ramblers still exsist in australia! (Mark Price)
   8. Bolton Landing AMC Meet and Greet (Wayne E LaMothe)
   9. Re: Anyone straighten/re-chrome bumpers in Texas??? &	Frank
      (Joe Wyatt)
  10. Re: Discs on a Classic (Matt Haas)
  11. Re: (rear) Discs on a Classic (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
  12. Re: Discs on a Classic (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:03:18 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] eagle parts
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Cc: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <7560391.1147982599002.JavaMail.root@web27>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

You grabbed the amp and controller didn't you?
Years ago I wired a factory one intoe a Ford car I owned at the time. It makes I nice boost in sound quality. For a stock system.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> So I'm pulling parts off this 85 Eagle wagon; fully
> equiped including rear window wash/wipe, leather, four
> speaker, etc. I am not sure what was standard on them
> but the build sheet shows a whole lot of add-ons.
> I want the flappers as there are four good ones and I
> pull the door panels (nice shape, red leather). There
> are a set of Boston Accoustics speakers in there! Damn
> skippy I grabbed them. I look in the rear and there
> are a matching st along with the factory bracket
> set-up. Curiosity got the best of me and I started
> following the wires, which lead to a big ol' amp under
> the seat!
> Did I mention a serious tow receiver and a custom
> fabbed 3-row radiator with an additional tranny
> cooler, not the cheapo kind sold at Pep Boys but a
> really nice brand. This guy must have done some
> big-time towing.
> Along with the owners manual was a card identifying
> the guy as a U-Haul district manager.
> Anyways, I am keeping the power brake booster,
> radiator and cooler, as a few other trim pieces.
> Anyone need anything. The yard owner doesn't keep AMCs
> around, but I was able to convince him to let me pull
> parts off this one......Russ  
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Justin Shelton <justinshelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] '73 Matador 2-door for sale in Chicago
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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This came up on Craigslist in Chicago.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/160834350.html

- Justin




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:59:52 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] "When you're not welcome you don't hang around"
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<E8DF38ACFC17F94998DE284C5CE4582A02202B9C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

>>
It's one notch above all those things we could bolt onto our (front engine, rear drive, etc) in the past -- whirling propellers under
carbs, and even beats magnets on fuel lines.
<<

Whoa, you be sayin' that playin' cards pinned to our bike forks din't ride faster, that them '60s-'70s Ambos/Matos granddads drove be Donks wantin' 30-inch dubs, an' that Cap'n Crunch Chicken (with Creole mustard sauce) be da bomb on da Planet called "Hollywood is America"?

Be real, if you know what we sayin'.

Next you be sayin' old AMC stylin' be whack to, wit a 197-day supply!

http://tinyurl.com/pw7cq

"You could fool me once (no no),
But you can't fool me two times (no no),
'Cuz I got three eyes (yeah yeah),
One look from the left side (yeah yeah),
The other from the right side (yeah yeah),
Got one eye on the inside (yeah yeah)"

http://www.classics.com/images01/rod01-16.jpg

http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/car/m/tucker/745494.jpg

"Private eyes
They're watching you
They see your every move"

http://www.chez.com/pacer/C4_small.jpg

BEP, H&O, PTT and AMC?  You be da man!

http://www.fiatcoupehistory.com/Bilder%20komp/1101.jpg

http://www.fiatcoupehistory.com/Bilder%20komp/DCP_1516.jpg

Or now you jes' be bein' krazee, man.

5 (or 7?) "eyes" ain't mo better'n 3!

So da prob be, motoman, you be right.

http://www.rides-mag.com/DONK/toc.html  

http://tinyurl.com/nk8mt

(Or you be one Kompletely Kra-Z fool...

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/xtfamily/cxt.asp

'kuz no commercial license be needed...)

Look, fools/foolettes: dat thang got a big, shinin' -G-R-I-L-L-E-!

Got it?  AMC don't need no fools.  Only fools still got a "grill."

>>
The Grill Is Partially Painted   Mr. AMC   05/18/06   06:22 AM   1111
<<

It doesn't matter if we're young or old; it doesn't matter if we're Ivy League or School of Hard Knocks; doesn't matter if we're rich, poor, or somewhere in the middle --- class is always in session every day of our lives.  Opportunities for self-improvement are endless 'til we draw our final breath.  If we don't make the most of the gifts we've been given, if we don't take every opportunity to learn, we are, indeed, simply fools.

So if '06 cars have grilles and '73 cars had grilles, what of '22 cars?

http://rickenbackermotors.com/sr/22sedan1.jpg

You may have guessed it: '22s had grilles too.

But did you guess which cars at the 12/21 NY show had relevance to AMC?

>>
nine new names... which would eventually have some relevance to Nash-AMC.
<<

With Wills-St. Claire, Rickenbacker, Kelsey, Handley-Knight, Frontenac, Durant, and Bournonville came an Ambassador.  With neither a Nash badge above nor a Morris body behind its radiator grille, but with a dream of self-improvement, profit, and longevity: a uniquely -American- dream.  The one everyone once had.

Each of those American motor companies worked very hard to build dreams,

http://66.213.36.5/images/image/archive/series1/c15/c157efcb.jpg

http://66.213.36.5/images/image/archive/series1/c15/c157e81b.jpg

http://66.213.36.5/images/image/archive/series1/c15/c157de1b.jpg

http://66.213.36.5/images/image/archive/series1/c16/c16996fb.jpg

http://66.213.36.5/images/image/archive/series1/c16/c169904b.jpg

http://www.nevadarockhounds.com/AWA/Cars/USA/Hand21a.jpg

but they all went the way American Motors did.  One of them, promoted as "America's finest Knight-powered car," was, in fact, powered by the same Willys that would become part of AMC.  But, when it failed (in '23), it, along with a plant that built the [Dort] bodies the young Charles Nash had begun his car life by upholstering, led to another lost/last independent auto company.  The Handley plant became the new home of the [ex-IL] Checker Cab Manufacturing Company in April, and on June 18, the first [MI] car was built.

The year AMC bought Willys-Overland-Kaiser-Jeep, the founder of Checker died, and on July 12, 1982, Checker Motors, itself, died when that last lone car was built.  The next year, American Motors' RWD-car dream died too, but now the poor AMC fools don't know when that happened and where that last car went.  I'm as poor and foolish as any of them.  I think it's a disgrace.  I think AMC is a lost cause.  I think it's time to give up.
  



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 18:22:04 -0400
From: Matthew Gracie <amc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Matador Coupe parts wanted.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <446CF38C.1040809@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

It's time for my annual plea for parts -- if anyone has a grille or the 
wheel trim rings for a 1977 Matador Coupe Barcelona 2, please let me 
know. Generally, my coupe is in pretty decent shape, but the grille is 
missing a couple of slats and the trim rings were lost before I bought 
the car.

--Matt


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:08:03 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] scenes from the art car parade
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01b501c67acf$30faf590$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Some of you know the Art Car Parade is in houstone ach year, actually the 
largest one in the world. One of my favorite's is a Edsel Pacer shown here, 
rescued from the crusher and turned into, well, you will have to see it for 
yourself. Another of my favorites is the Ketchup packet car and the Driver's 
Education car. At least that was not a AMC.
http://spawmaxwell.smugmug.com/gallery/1459262
the above has a slideshow.

And should you want to see all the oddities that is the Art Car Parade, 
click here:
http://www.orangeshow.org/vote2006/index.htm

I didn't see the Musical Matador however; there have been two of these, one 
75 Matador coupe, the other a 76 four door Matador, both with thousands of 
records...78 rpm, 45rpm, 33rpm, and of course CD's glued lovingly to it 
inside and out, even the hubcaps had CD's on it.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:53:16 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: yep ramblers still exsist in australia!
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: powerglide <powerglide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01bb01c67acf$32820ac0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

The folks below are looking for a oil filter adapter for a 287V8..in Australia. If anyone can help them out please feel free to contact them. Also my question would be would a 327 AMC V8 have same item on it to interchange with? If you know, be sure to copy your reply to the list here and also Gino, they would appreciate it, thanks in advance to all who might reply. 
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: powerglide          powerglide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: yep ramblers still exsist in australia!


G'DAY FROM AUSTRALIA!
Hi Eddie,firstly you have a great site,heeeeps of info for the starved rambler owner in australia,i have used it many times to find parts ,info etc......i hope you can help me locate a trival but important part,im after for my 64 rambler classic 287 v8 the alloy oil filter adaptor rthat bolts to the block.....easy? but i would like new....and would buy 2or 3....if i could find some......i have owned this rambler for almost 18yrs ,bought it in my teens,thrashed ,raced the living hell out of it(as young teenagers do!) but i rebuilt engines,auto trans,front ends,brakes, etc,etc....modified ,chased up parts,bought ...i now have more respect for it!!!! and drive it cruze with it regularly....i have five other cars fully registed dont believe in club rego scheme,dunno bought you guys in the US but in OZ club rego sux!!! you now you can only drive on club events,on sunny days,at a top speed of 60kmp ,not on cold rainy foggy days cause ya know ya gotta watch out for old carscause th!
 ey are not safe and with petrol at $1.50 PER LITRE!! you cant accelerate to hard..( and our unleaded fuel suxs my rambler pings when you boot full it!).....DRIVE the bloody thing anywhere anytime thats wot i say!!!!! sorry to rave on mate....oh yeh i owned a 69 javerlin sst coupe,pretty rare in oz factory right hand , in a horrible mustard color,but jezzzz it flew! someone had pumped and flared the rear gaurds to fit BFgoogrich 295 t/a on it ,mate it woz fuking ugly,but a guy bought it put 2 new quaters on it and restored it...to original.......
sorry again to talk crap ,once again thanx for all the great advice/info/laughs from you web site over the years ON YA MATE!!!! hope you can help with my parts request your advise or info would be unreal
thanx
Gino Musico.
ps looking to purchase a  clean running original 64/5/6 rambler convertible,got any in ya back pocket

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:46:45 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fw: yep ramblers still exsist in australia!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx, Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: powerglide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <15568004.1147996005898.JavaMail.root@web13>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

327 is the same.

--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> The folks below are looking for a oil filter adapter for a 287V8..in Australia. If anyone can help them out please feel free to contact them. Also my question would be would a 327 AMC V8 have same item on it to interchange with? If you know, be sure to copy your reply to the list here and also Gino, they would appreciate it, thanks in advance to all who might reply. 
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: powerglide          powerglide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:30 AM
> Subject: yep ramblers still exsist in australia!
> 
> 
> G'DAY FROM AUSTRALIA!
> Hi Eddie,firstly you have a great site,heeeeps of info for the starved rambler owner in australia,i have used it many times to find parts ,info etc......i hope you can help me locate a trival but important part,im after for my 64 rambler classic 287 v8 the alloy oil filter adaptor rthat bolts to the block.....easy? but i would like new....and would buy 2or 3....if i could find some......i have owned this rambler for almost 18yrs ,bought it in my teens,thrashed ,raced the living hell out of it(as young teenagers do!) but i rebuilt engines,auto trans,front ends,brakes, etc,etc....modified ,chased up parts,bought ...i now have more respect for it!!!! and drive it cruze with it regularly....i have five other cars fully registed dont believe in club rego scheme,dunno bought you guys in the US but in OZ club rego sux!!! you now you can only drive on club events,on sunny days,at a top speed of 60kmp ,not on cold rainy foggy days cause ya know ya gotta watch out for old carscause !
 th!
>  ey are not safe and with petrol at $1.50 PER LITRE!! you cant accelerate to hard..( and our unleaded fuel suxs my rambler pings when you boot full it!).....DRIVE the bloody thing anywhere anytime thats wot i say!!!!! sorry to rave on mate....oh yeh i owned a 69 javerlin sst coupe,pretty rare in oz factory right hand , in a horrible mustard color,but jezzzz it flew! someone had pumped and flared the rear gaurds to fit BFgoogrich 295 t/a on it ,mate it woz fuking ugly,but a guy bought it put 2 new quaters on it and restored it...to original.......
> sorry again to talk crap ,once again thanx for all the great advice/info/laughs from you web site over the years ON YA MATE!!!! hope you can help with my parts request your advise or info would be unreal
> thanx
> Gino Musico.
> ps looking to purchase a  clean running original 64/5/6 rambler convertible,got any in ya back pocket
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:53:11 -0400
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Bolton Landing AMC Meet and Greet
To: marksamc401@xxxxxxx, cci@xxxxxxxxxxxx, cerniglia@xxxxxxxxxx,
	rwaite@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, FSJ-List@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060518.205312.1964.1.superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

1st Annual?
AMC Meet & Greet
3 June 2006
Noon to 5pm

Get that AMC out of the garage and take a scenic drive to Bolton Landing
NY. There will be an informal Meet & Greet at my house to kick off the
summer cruising season. Feel free to stay an hour or the whole afternoon
and share tales of woe and triumph regarding keeping these special cars
going. This is a chance to get to know other people in the area who can
help or need help with their cars. I will have a pot of chili ready and
you bring whatever else you want in your picnic basket. There is plenty
of room in the field next to my house and the garage will be open in case
you have a minor glitch getting here. If weather permits and the mood
prevails we may cruise to Papa?s ice cream in Lake Luzerne at 5pm.
Directions: Exit 24 of the Adirondack Northway, east on County Route 11
for 2.5 miles to the top of the mountain, right on Valley Woods Road and
we are the second house on the left. I will have some of my cars parked
in the field as a landmark.
Hope to see any one with an AMC. There may be some Essex/Terraplane folks
too but they will be relegated to the spot next to the barn (haha)
If you plan on coming, try to let me know so I have an idea of how much
chili to make. If you decide to come at the last minute please do so as I
am sure there will be enough chili to go around.
Hope to see ya there.  Forward this to anyone you know with an AMC!!!
Wayne and Lisa LaMothe
704 Valley Woods Rd
Bolton Landing, NY
518.644.2567
superglider(at)juno.com

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:31:33 -0500
From: "Joe Wyatt" <jwyattattx@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Anyone straighten/re-chrome bumpers in
	Texas??? &	Frank
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <009401c67ae3$f687d620$6501a8c0@Office1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Arfon, I had 3 sets for my AMX/Javelin SSTs "front and rear" done south of 
Dallas (I-45 exit 276 and the Loop) last year, they did a very good job, all 
look new.

Ask for Brian Brady, Best Bumper Supply Inc. 1-800-727-1852 or 972-225-1852

Frank, stay cool, I'm leaving for Riyadh June 5th, hope that's as close to 
you as I get.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:17:23 -0500
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Anyone straighten/re-chrome bumpers in Texas???
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060512171621.02e10a80@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I need my bumpers fixed...  Anyone knows of some Texas shops (I'm in 
Austin).



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:20:35 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Discs on a Classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060518211632.028ab390@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Using factory springs on another make's axle wouldn't be much of a problem 
(outside of axle tube diameter which is solvable) but from an appearance 
standpoint, the axle needs to move back about 2 inches to center it in the 
wheel opening. IMHO, if you're going to go to the trouble of dumping the 
torque tube, you might as well center the wheel in the opening.

Matt

At 11:11 AM 5/18/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>I mentioned the torque tube set up on the Classic as I
>assumed the poster was getting a non-AMC rear for the
>discs. Chances are the 62 Classic springs won't line
>up to the donor rear, so they will have to contend
>with that. Also they will have to hook up some sort of
>torque link or control arm, the 4-link aftermarket
>set-up looks promising. If you go the Fomoco route you
>might consider a Mustang II front end. You can use the
>Fomoco brakes and upgrade to the purty 13" colored
>rotors out there, put some gangster 17's on and you
>are profiling.......russ

mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 03:56:24 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] (rear) Discs on a Classic
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65F36@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

On May 18, 2006 russ hathaway wrote:

> I mentioned the torque tube set up on the Classic as I
> assumed the poster was getting a non-AMC rear for the
> discs. Chances are the 62 Classic springs won't line
> up to the donor rear, so they will have to contend
> with that. Also they will have to hook up some sort of
> torque link or control arm, the 4-link aftermarket
> set-up looks promising. If you go the Fomoco route you
> might consider a Mustang II front end. You can use the
> Fomoco brakes and upgrade to the purty 13" colored
> rotors out there, put some gangster 17's on and you
> are profiling.......russ


This isn't a problem on the Classic. The springs sit over the rear axle.
The stock spring seats rest on top of the axle tubes and are held on by
a single 3/8" x 1/2" long fine thread bolt. The top of the axle tube is
drilled and tapped for the bolt. Simply put the seat on the new axle. I
did that when running a Jeep D35 in my previous 63 Classic wagon. 


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 04:06:01 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Discs on a Classic
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65F37@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

On May 18, 2006 Matt Haas wrote:

> Using factory springs on another make's axle wouldn't be much of a
problem
> (outside of axle tube diameter which is solvable) but from an
appearance
> standpoint, the axle needs to move back about 2 inches to center it in
the
> wheel opening. IMHO, if you're going to go to the trouble of dumping
the
> torque tube, you might as well center the wheel in the opening.
> 
> Matt

Now if Ed Anderson wanted the wheels centered in that long sloping wheel
well instead of neatly tucked up front, he'd have put it there!!! ;> 
Seriously, I guess it's just a matter of preference. The wheel is
centered on the highest part of the wheel well, which gives it a "tucked
in" look, but the wheel well is rather long. 


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