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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Hot Rodding is dead (Sandwich Maker)
   2. My new 88 (Ken Ames)
   3. Re: 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100 (Russell Neyhart)
   4. Re: Cherokee diesel? (Russell Neyhart)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:11:49 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Hot Rodding is dead
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200701030511.l035BnF11936@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "Jamie Smith" <oconner51@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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" I've added a new vehicle to the flock. I have just acquired a 1985
" Jeep Cherokee Pioneer. I got it to use as parts for the Comanche but
" it is in such good condition I am not sure I want to part it out so
" I may just put a motor in it and keep it. 

idle curiosity - what motor does it have - the v6?  what tranny?
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:32:08 -0700
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] My new 88
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I nearly went through all of 2006 without buying a car but fell prey to the
local Pick-n-Pull on the 30th. A low mile (144334 kms / 89630 mi.) beauty with a
nasty transmission leak. VIN and body numbers both '1308' so it's about 1000
cars from the last ever AMC. Built September 23rd 1987. Air, tilt, _no_ cruise.
Turns out the transmission leak was a missing pressure plug. Reverse is slow to
actuate but otherwise seems OK. 


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r122/AMCKenA/88Eagleresize.jpg

and here's why the tranmission was leaking.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r122/AMCKenA/88Eagletransplug2resize.jpg

and the date tag...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r122/AMCKenA/88EagleMFGtag1resize.jpg

Happy New Year

Ken Ames

39Master85w.partscar,67Marlin,68AMX,70Machine,73Matador2drht,73Hornet4dsd,
73-74-75-76GremlinXs,75PacerX,76Hornet2dsd,77Matadorcpe,2-77AMXs,78AMX,
78Gremlin,78GremlinGT,79Concordhb,79PacerDL8,2-79AMXs,2-80AMXs,
2-80SpiritDL,80Eagle4dsdn,2-81SX4s,81SpiritGT,81Concord4dsd,82Eaglesw,
2-85Eaglesw,80J20,85J10,88Eaglesw,89Sentra4dsd   (39)

AMCA = http://clubs.hemmings.com/amcalberta/





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:59:09 -0500
From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100
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Good Morning Andrew,

The Volvo diesels in the 240 series were Audi truck I6's with the same 
bore & stroke as the Audi 2.0 I5's used in the 5000 and the 1.6 I4's 
used in the 4000 and non-TDI VW's. Good luck finding a good parts 
person! Please let us all know if you find one who will turn around and 
look at the ancient scrolls, er books behind them after punching a few 
keys turns up nothing!

Regards,

Russ (from Pa.)
1988 Eagle Wagon

Sandwich Maker wrote:
> " From: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " My sediments exactly. I've thought a long time about doing something 
> " like this, either with a 58-60 (love the retro look) or 64-65 (like the 
> " quasi-turbine look and the extra room) American 2-door. I'd been looking 
> " for a source for a medium size four or small six diesel. I had forgotten 
> " about the Nissan, I'll have to add that to my list. I would love to have 
> " a veggie Rambler for a fair weather driver...
>
> i've been thinking about dieselizing a cherokee.  for them, toyota is
> a natural choice as they both used similar aisin-warner trannies; i
> narrowed it down to a 2L-TE with a stick for my approach, but volvo
> also used the aw auto and when they dropped the vw diesel and started
> making their own they put them together for at least a few years.  bad
> news: volvo doesn't sell diesel cars here.  also, the mill is a -5-.
> good news: volvo marine does sell the engine here, and it's powerful -
> 160 and 190 hp from a 2.4L!  that still leaves you scratching for the
> flexplate etc unless you can find a helpful parts person, but it's a
> big step forward.
>
> toyota diesels - and most japanese engines - are available pretty
> reasonably as low mileage used pulls from japan.
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> internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:17:36 -0500
From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Cherokee diesel?
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The VM 2.5 diesel is/was used in these vehicles:

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/01/index.jsp

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/02/index.jsp

The 2.5 is an I4. There is a discussion about an Eagle converted to a VM 
I6 in 1980 or so on the Eagle's Nest. The VM diesel is interesting as it 
uses one cylinder head per cylinder. The engine in the Liberties is a 
2.8 liter version of the same engine. A 2.5 or 2.8 with a turbo would be 
a nice replacement for the AMC 4.2 IMHO. I believe that the converted 
Eagle used the stock transmission, but I can't remember if it was an 
automatic or standard. I found a Spirit for sale close to me that was a 
fairly plain car with an I4 and a standard that got me thinking how nice 
that would be with one of these in there... but of course I didn't buy 
it... too many other things going on and I haven't a garage anymore.

Russ (from Pa.)
1988 Eagle Wagon (not a diesel)


Sandwich Maker wrote:
> " From: "Jeff Reeves" <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " Just a few weeks ago, I saw either a 95 or 96 model Cherokee diesel for sale on Ebay in the "parts car" category that had been wrecked. . It was an export model with a 2.5 diesel of some sort, but it was a factory-built diesel. It was in Maryland.
>
> i wouldn't mind having one, though as a semi-orphan it'd probably be a
> service nightmare.
>
> that mill's an italian vm iirc, handled in this country by penske
> detroit diesel.  i have a strange feeling it's a 5 cylinder but i
> don't know why, nor what trannies it was matched with.
>
> i -think- this is the same engine used in the recent diesel libertys.
>
> " And, don't forget the diesel Cherokees that were available 84-86 (miserable as they likely were). 
>
> maybe '87 too, i'm not sure.
>
> 2.1L renault engines, don't recall if they were turboed.  they used
> the same ax-5 stick as gas fours making a toyota re-engine even more
> of a drop-kick.
>
> a formerly-renault diesel has been for sale up around here, with the
> seller proudly stating it now has an olds 4.3 diesel under the hood.
> quite an achievement but not a great idea...
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> internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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