Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 9, Issue 51 AMBASSADORS

[Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>]

Frank. Now what you said about new trucks is not
entirely true( no offence).NOT trying to argue but..
In 2004 i bought a brand new(first BRAND NEW
vehicle)2004 F150 4x4 FX4 off road supercab.Will never
buy a new vehicle again  SINCE i got laid-off from the
good paying factory job i had back them. There are NO
good paying  jobs available in Illinois for older (i'm
51)guys now!! ANYWAY.... I've hauled parts,engines
,rearends..etc from the first day i had it!! I drove
it from Illinois to New Mexico and Texas then back to
Illinois the third week i owned it. Hauled home four
car doors,two hoods,pair of fenders,a 1969 Javelin
rearend, disk brake assys,crank shafts, AND pulled a
trailer with a 401 in it. YES it cost me a fortune to
buy a NEW truck. BUT i USE it regularly. I'm always
pulling my car trailer somewhere to get a
car/truck,parts..etc.YES it's still dent/ding free
with 45,000 miles on it. Bedliner is pretty scraped up
though. I take care of it and do not abuse it. At
Walmart i park WAYYY out so as not to get door dings!
Same thing with my old AMC's!! BUT I bought it to USE.
Just wanted to let you know that not all new truck
owners are afraid to USE them. Also...i'll tie up
bumper to bumper with a TOYOTA Tundra anyday!! A
pull-off would be FUN! Get tired of the adds....better
than ford or gm trucks..my eye! Hope i'm not in
trouble noiw for voicing my opinion? Thanks,Joe

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>       (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
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>    4. Re: Ambassadors (getting past EPA/DOT) (Mark
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>    6. Re: pulling an axle (Sandwich Maker)
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>    8. Re: Ambassadors (getting past EPA/DOT)
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>    9. Re: Was AMBOS and EPA/DOT (JOE FULTON)
>   10. Re: Was AMBOS and EPA/DOT (Sandwich Maker)
>   11. Re: FREEEE (Tom Jennings)
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>   14. Charity AMX update (Widiker, John D)
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> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:57:52 -0600
> From: "Keleigh Hardie" <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] Brats...
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> "remember the gyrations Subaru did with the Brat to
> get it to be a "truck"?"
> 
> Actually (IIRC), the Brat had jump seats welded in
> the bed to qualify it as 
> a car, which made for a lower import duty...
> 
> Keleigh 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:07:15 -0500
> From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
> 	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Ambassadors (getting past
> EPA/DOT)
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> >>
> it is with morbid amusement that i see japanese
> companies successfully
> import their suvs as -cars- but get them past the
> epa and dot etc as
> -trucks-.
> <<
> 
> The rise of such instances is why the EPA/DOT (one
> or the other, or
> both) have at least started thinking about changing
> requirements for
> light trucks to be the same as for cars. To many
> people use light trucks
> (3/4 ton pickups and under) for regular passenger
> conveyance. Ask some
> truck owners to haul something for you (say a
> washing machine you just
> bought) and they'll have a fit! "Not in my 440K
> truck -- might scratch
> the plastic bed liner, and I'd have to unfasten the
> tonneau cover too!!"
> I think it would be a great change, say anything
> under 10K GVW (a 3/4
> ton pickup would weigh at least 6K -- 4K or so of
> truck, 1.5K payload,
> and an extra 500 lbs of passengers) regardless of
> type meets the same
> EPA/DOT standards. With today's technology there
> isn't a lot of
> difference in power output like there used to be. 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:14:32 -0500
> From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
> 	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Freee
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> Unfortunately it all depends on your location and
> needs of those nearby.
> Don't recall your location Joe, but Doc's near NYC.
> Mark posted his 258
> on the Strokers list in the hopes someone looking
> for a crank and rods
> would want it. One person asked for the exact
> location, and I sent him
> an e-mail with Doc's e-mail address and told him to
> contact him
> directly. 
> 
> AMCers are spread a bit thin across the country,
> unfortunately! The
> further out in the boonies cars are on e-bay, the
> less they bring,
> whereas those close to populated areas, even in
> worse condition, often
> go for more than one would expect. Hard to ship
> parts, such as engines,
> are the same. No one seems to realize a 343 is a
> high comp engine that
> will produce as much or more power than a low comp
> 360 -- they just see
> the size. Or maybe they do and running on lower
> grade fuel is more
> important... 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 6:47:18 -0700
> From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Ambassadors (getting past
> EPA/DOT)
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
> 	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Funny one of the things I like about my Dakota is I
> can actually haul stuff with it and the mileage [in
> town at least] is the same as the S10! At least I
> now know what the S stands for! But I won't say here
> as then I'd have to wipe up the mess.
>   The MOPAR Canvas look cover on it is the easiest
> one one I've ever used. It rolls up in a few seconds
> and reinstalls just as quick.
> --
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
> 
> 
> ---- "Swygert wrote: 
> > >>
> > it is with morbid amusement that i see japanese
> companies successfully
> > import their suvs as -cars- but get them past the
> epa and dot etc as
> > -trucks-.
> > <<
> > 
> > The rise of such instances is why the EPA/DOT (one
> or the other, or
> > both) have at least started thinking about
> changing requirements for
> > light trucks to be the same as for cars. To many
> people use light trucks
> > (3/4 ton pickups and under) for regular passenger
> conveyance. Ask some
> > truck owners to haul something for you (say a
> washing 
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