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Today's Topics:
1. 72 Hornet parts wanted (Eddie Stakes)
2. 4speed console & armrest wanted Spirit (Eddie Stakes)
3. 71-74 front bumper for sale (Eddie Stakes)
4. rotors & pads wanted 73 Javelin AMX (Eddie Stakes)
5. American 1/4 panel wanted (Eddie Stakes)
6. 71 AMX console wanted (Eddie Stakes)
7. Re: rambler hot rod (Widiker, John D)
8. Lexus LS460 Eight Speed Automatic (Brien Tourville)
9. AMC in print (dan whitehead)
10. rambler hot rod (John Elle)
11. Re: Replacement for A Carter, Why? (John Elle)
12. Re: 6 Speed GM automatics etc. (John Elle)
13. Re: rambler hot rod (Sandwich Maker)
14. 82 Eagle (L. D. Lyons)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:08:01 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 72 Hornet parts wanted
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: msjamesryan@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <025801c6e71f$38904820$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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I have a 1972 Hornet SST, 4.2L straight 6. I am looking for a crankshaft
pulley and an air filter housing assembly, including the hose/valve to the
valve cover. May need more parts later, but this will get me running again!
James Ryan msjamesryan@xxxxxxx 646-852-5293
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anyone that can help out with the parts give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:13:47 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 4speed console & armrest wanted Spirit
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: pkonwinski@xxxxxxx
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looking for 4 speed console and fold down arm rest for spirit amx paul
konwinski pkonwinski@xxxxxxx
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anyone that can help Paul out give him a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:07:05 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 71-74 front bumper for sale
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: bbo70amx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <025701c6e71f$38381600$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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For Sale: Re-chromed triple plated 1971-1974 Javelin or Javelin/AMX front
bumper. This is the nicest front bumper I have ever seen for a 71-74
Javelin. Email for more information. javelin1 bbo70amx@xxxxxxxxxxx
316-304-7401
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anyone needing photos or infor give them a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:10:08 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] rotors & pads wanted 73 Javelin AMX
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: rwelch3651@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <025901c6e71f$38e14e50$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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wanted front brake rotors and pads for 1973 amx javelin, I believe these are
ford parts becasue when i replaced the pads I got ford maverick pads and
they fit I have lost part number but now I need front rotors Robert Welch
rwelch3651@xxxxxxxxx 281-589-7916
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anyone that can help Bob out give him a shuot above, thanks.
***Bob, seeing you are in Houston, contact the guys at O'Reillys on North
Gessner. I recently needed rotors and pads for my 72 Ambassador SST wagon
and they had no problem getting them brand new.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:12:43 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] American 1/4 panel wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: VElfering@xxxxxxx
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I need a passengerside quater panel for my 68 Rambler American 2dr sedan.
This car was all restored and show ready but was side swiped last fall. I
have found the front fender and pass. dr. but I still need a passenger side
quarter panel. Any help would be great. I really miss driving my Rambler so
help me get her back on the road. thanks Vance Elfering VElfering@xxxxxxx
763-428-8720
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anyone thatr can help out Vance give them a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:11:55 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 71 AMX console wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: limax25@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I need a center console for a 71 amx 4 speed!!! Scott Maxwell
limax25@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 516-594-9502
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anyone that can possibly help Scott out give him a shout above, thanks.
***Scott, note that I have a red, 71 console listed in the AMC PARTS SPECIAL
file on the front page of my website. It is AT, you would have to find the
unobtainium four speed chrome bexel though.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:10:39 -0400
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Audi 5000 gearboxes are growing in mid engine use popularity and you
always have the Porsche G50 transmission as well.
~J
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sandwich Maker
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:52 PM
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
" From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) "
"
" " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" "
" " []
" "
" " I really want a mid-engine car, but Hallibrand transaxles are " "
out of my range, but I think I've come up with a scheme for a " " rear
engine, front drive car, using a jeep or eagle front axle.
"
" wasn't there a relatively-recent corvette that had a transaxle? they
" oughta be showing up in junkyards...
found it! the '97-'04 c5... pic of the transaxle going into a camaro
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/davidesenia/CorvetteSuspensionSwa
p.jpg
it's apparently a warner t56 coupled to a d44. there are aftermkt diff
housings...
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:10:42 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Lexus LS460 Eight Speed Automatic
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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DETROIT - General Motors has formally announced its new Hydra-matic
6L80 transmission - a high-torque-capacity gearbox designed for use
in such high-performance, rear- and four-wheel-drive vehicles as the
2006 Chevrolet Corvette, the 2006 Cadillac STS-V and XLR-V, and the
2007 GMC Yukon Denali.
The 6L80 is the first in a series of new six-speed automatics planned
by GM. The automaker has jointly developed with Ford Motor a new six-
speed transmission for front- and all-wheel-drive applications. That
unit goes into production next year, and will be used on the new 2007
GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook crossover vehicles, as well as the 2007
Saturn Aura sedan.
GM is coming relatively late to the six-speed party. Volkswagen, for
instance, has been offering six-speed automatics in Europe on its
smaller models, including the Golf, for more than a year. Mercedes-
Benz last year introduced a seven-speed automatic, and Lexus is
expected to announce a new eight-speed automatic in January when it
formally unveils the 2007 LS 460 sedan.
GM's 6L80 transmission was designed to handle the extra torque
generated by the company's latest generation of high-performance
engines, including the new 6.2-liter V8 in the '07 Yukon Denali and
Cadillac Escalade, which produces 380 horsepower and 415 pound-feet,
and the supercharged 4.4-liter V8 in the V-Series Cadillacs, which
delivers 440 hp and 430 lb-ft.
The 6L80 six-speed automatic has a wide, 6.04-to-1 overall ratio,
including two overdrive gears, that is designed to deliver a good
balance of performance and fuel economy. The 6L80 also has a "tap
up/tap down" capability that allows the driver to manually select
upshifts and downshifts with a button on the column shifter.
What this means to you: GM is finally coming to the six-speed party -
just as Lexus dusts off a new eight-speed.
=== ===
First I'm up by 3 gears with the LS430 A761E -vs- my TorqueFlite -
now I'm down by 2 against the LS460..........
sheesh......
=Bt=
milnersXcoupe
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:52:48 +0000
From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC in print
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Just picked up the Nov. Popular Hot Rodding to check out the '70 AMX being
sold on ebay. Nick, nice shot to the arm for you as being noted for
building the engine. The car is very nice, but some little things that I
personally don't care for. It's nice seeing a good write up on an AMX
though.
Dan Whitehead
'70 BBO Donohue
'69 AMX (now at a resto shop)
'82 Spirit daily driver
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:43:20 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000701c6e72c$93f0d8d0$ccdc0d82@john1>
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Tom
SNIP
I really want a mid-engine car, but Hallibrand transaxles are
" " out of my range, but I think I've come up with a scheme for a
" " rear engine, front drive car, using a jeep or eagle front axle.
SNIP
This looks like a fun project, but if I were drawing it out
with chalk on the garage floor I think I would be trying to figure
out how to get an engine adapter to get my I-6 bolted up to an
early Olds Tornado or Cadillac Eldorado front drive transmission.
They were North South applications, if I remember correctly chain
drive from the engine to the transmission and many were used for
mid or rear engine applications.
The Olds 350 I think and a Cadillac engine were used I believe.
The Cadillac Seville might be a possibility too!
This used the Olds 350 and one of the V-6's also (3.8, 4.3?).
I don't know much about the mechanics of these things but does
that make it a BOP bell housing? If so would there be some AMC/GM
bell housing adapter that would allow a straight bolt up?
Of course this could get a bit weird if your I6 predates the 72
bell housing bolt pattern change?
Or if this is an early configuration what bolt pattern or bell
housing combination allowed AMC to bolt up their I6 to the GM
Hydramatic that was orginially used back in the 50's? And would
it work for this?
John.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:08:04 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Replacement for A Carter, Why?
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000e01c6e730$08849170$ccdc0d82@john1>
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For what it is worth.
I have never had a desire to replace a Carter BBD with
anything else under most circumstances.
I have had no problem with rebuilding them if it was needed,
adjusted correctly they work just fine.
I have built some quick I-6's using a stock BBD and have
one stock one currently on the road that regularly gets 24+
miles per gallon and will run with current traffic conditions.
Set up correctly with the vacuum lines hooked up as they
should be they have never given me a bit of trouble and they
pass smog in this state.
Are they perfect? No! But they get the job done well. The basic
problems I have found were with the vacuum lines, not the
carburetors. They are also small, but that is typical of
all American made I-6 set ups other than the Pontiac Sprint
packages used a number of years back. I have reason
to believe that they are specked out at 179cfm by Carter which
is more than a bit small for an AMC I6 or anyone else's for
that matter.
For those situations where small was a problem my preference
was then and still is to install a small Carter AFB and go for it.
If that was not exotic enough I have gone the fuel injection
route.
I have yet to, but it is on my round-tuit list to built a turbo
version of an AMC I-6. I would dearly love to beat up on
Buick GNs.
I have found that the advantages of not having to spend a ton
of money on a carburetor that is no better, not having to cob up
some kind of crude linkage and I have seen a few beauts , and
for automatic applications not having to cob up some form of
kick down linkage has more than paid for itself in pure lack of
aggravation.
John
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:12:21 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 6 Speed GM automatics etc.
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <001301c6e730$a1d38c00$ccdc0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
So what is new about them?
I run a 4 speed 904!
Granted it is short 2 gears as compared to the
GM units but it fits my Spirit, cost 50 cents
and works.
John.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:59:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rambler hot rod
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610032159.k93Lx0N11537@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" Tom
" SNIP
" " " I really want a mid-engine car, but Hallibrand transaxles are
" " " out of my range, but I think I've come up with a scheme for a
" " " rear engine, front drive car, using a jeep or eagle front axle.
" SNIP
" This looks like a fun project, but if I were drawing it out
" with chalk on the garage floor I think I would be trying to figure
" out how to get an engine adapter to get my I-6 bolted up to an
" early Olds Tornado or Cadillac Eldorado front drive transmission.
" They were North South applications, if I remember correctly chain
" drive from the engine to the transmission and many were used for
" mid or rear engine applications.
they were indeed longitudinal.
" The Olds 350 I think and a Cadillac engine were used I believe.
there were several toro/eldo transaxles. the first ['67-'78] was
th400-based, for the olds 425 and caddy 500. the later ones did have
the olds 350 and were either th350-based 3sp or iirc th200-4r-based
4sp. they are all b-o-p pattern.
these do have the advantage [1] of sitting the engine over the axle
with the tranny alongside, but adapting them to the navarro engine
wouldn't be any easier than a corvette c5 t56 transaxle.
one nit with the th400-based unit - the diff has planetary spider
gears, for space reasons. side effect - unequal torque split l/r. i
don't know what sort of diff the later transaxles used.
" The Cadillac Seville might be a possibility too!
afaik this was just another nova knockoff.
" This used the Olds 350 and one of the V-6's also (3.8, 4.3?).
" I don't know much about the mechanics of these things but does
" that make it a BOP bell housing? If so would there be some AMC/GM
" bell housing adapter that would allow a straight bolt up?
" Of course this could get a bit weird if your I6 predates the 72
" bell housing bolt pattern change?
advance adapters has a ring which bolts to an amc v8 or late six and
takes both chevy and b-o-p automatics, but the navarro turbo engine is
based on a 199. aa also has a gm-pattern bellhousing - for v8s and
late sixes. it even has a cps hole for use with 4.0s.
" Or if this is an early configuration what bolt pattern or bell
" housing combination allowed AMC to bolt up their I6 to the GM
" Hydramatic that was orginally used back in the 50's? And would
" it work for this?
dunno about the hydramatic, but the jeep th400 used a buick 'nailhead'
case which -did-not- have a b-o-p pattern. forget about that adapter.
t56 transaxle thoughts: how long is the input shaft? it can't be one
piece all the way to the engine, can it? in any event, if it's long
enough it could be cut to amc t-10 length and splined. [conversely,
if it's -short- enough, a splined stub could be attached] then put
the transaxle guts into a warner aftermkt case with standard gm bolt
pattern.
why? i have a rare [2] 'mexican' bellhousing for putting an amc t-10
behind a '60s six. the odd thing is it's clearly way too deep for a
gm tranny, but it has the shape and meat in the right places for a gm
bolt pattern... it's looking less and less like i'll ever get to use
it, so for the right price i might be persuaded to contribute it to
the project. if a long input shaft could be fabricated for the t56,
this could work.
[1] the advantage is in wheelbase and overall length, but weight
distribution would undoubtedly be worse. in a light car, much worse -
the engine and transaxle alone could be 1/3 of the car's total weight.
[2] rare? mine is the only one i've ever heard of actually existing.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:15:08 -0500
From: "L. D. Lyons" <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 82 Eagle
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <018e01c6e739$63703d10$6401a8c0@lyonsamd2000xp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have a chance to buy an 82 Eagle 4X4, 258, automatic
150Kplus miles on itfor $300.(has hail damage) The problem is that the tilt sterring is really loose and the guy did not know what to do to fix it. He has another tilt steering coloum for it, How hard is it to change on of these.
L.D. Lyons
Hastings, Nebraska
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