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Today's Topics:
1. 74 AMX Door Strikers (markskur1@xxxxxxx)
2. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 (Mark Price)
3. Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over (Wayne E LaMothe)
4. GEN1 to GEN2 changeover update (Wayne E LaMothe)
5. Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over (Sandwich Maker)
6. American rear ends (russ hathaway)
7. Temp sending unit question (Jay)
8. AMC INK (Jock J Jocewicz)
9. AMC INK - IPODS (Jock J Jocewicz)
10. Jav drive line (russ hathaway)
11. IPODS in old cars (Widiker, John D)
12. Re: American rear ends (Mark Price)
13. Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over (Mark Price)
14. Fed up with high American Pharmacy costs? (Jesse)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:27:18 -0400
From: markskur1@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] 74 AMX Door Strikers
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I currently have original door strikers that have a torx head for installing.
I received some replacement strilers without the torx head.
Question: which door strikers are correct formy 74 AMX?
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 7:17:54 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jim Boone <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Jim,
Your wagon does not have an actual porportioning valve. It just has a warning light switch built into it. You can tap the adjustable valve into the rear brake line anywhere it is convenient for you to get to it and make the adjustment, leaving the original block in place. If you have rear brake lock up after installing the discs, install the valve. No rear wheel lockup??? Don't bother with the valve. It will only reduce pressure and not increase it in any way. My American would need a valve with it's currect brake setup if I wasn't running the large 255/60/15 tires on the rear. Skinnys would lock up way to early. But with the large tires on mine it is fairly well balanced. A panic stop gives me rear lockup just slightly before fronts.
On my American I run 82 Concord discs, stock 9" rear drums and use a 79 Mustang manual disc brake master [which I don't recomend, it takes to much work to adapt, I bought it when I did't know any better] I had to weld the hole closed int he brake pedal and redrill it to get the pedal height correct, plus redrill the firewall holes to allow the master to bolt up. It Works good now, but not worth all the effort when I could have just bought the correct master! live and learn!
On the 82 discs, when you assemble they will give you two antirattle springs per side. Only use one. Place it on the trailing edge of the pad to hold the pad forward in the direction of rotation. Placing the springs on both ends only leads to noises from the pads rattling around back and forth. We found this out way back in 82 on the new cars as a lot of people complained of all the clunking and clicking from the pads flopping around. IIRC it was an recomendation from the local factory rep at the time. I was surprised to see four springs even included in the hardware kits when I did the American!
--
Mark Price
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Morgantown, WV
---- Jim Boone <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not sure I'm understanding you guys; Should the adjustable
> proportioning valve - aka Wildwood or whatever the brand is - be IN ADDITION
> to the stock AMC proportioning valve? You just junction the line to the
> rear brakes AFTER it goes through the stock one? Or, should I try and
> remove the stock one alltogether?
>
> The brake warning light is coming off of the stock PPV?
>
> Jim Boone
> Mims, FL
>
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:35:47 -0700
> >From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brake balance valve
>
> >On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 10:49 -0700, russ hathaway wrote:
> > > So Brian, do I understand that if I don't care for the
> > > warning light (when I run into that semi I will know
> > > the brakes failed) I can just do without that doo dad.
> > > I would like to hook up my brake sending unit off that
> > > first junction, then get an adjustable prop valve like
> > > all them big city hot rods have.....Russ
> >
> >Yup. I now wish I had done just that when I replumbed the brakes in my
> >Hornet; I recreated the factory setup (with later model brake-imbalance
> >switch setup). I should have just plumbed it without that silly valve,
> >it would have saved a lot of clutter and inconvenient brakeline bending.
> >
> >The check valve in the master cylinder provides the held-pressure for
> >the rear drum brakes.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:08:58 -0400
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
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I have seen some information that late 66 model year cars came with the
Gen 2 engines. Given the changes necessary to do that I doubt it would
have happened until the full model year update for the 67 line and the
elimination of the closed driveline. Yet I see a 66 Ambo on EvilBay with
a Gen 2 engine and have heard of 66 Marlins with the 290 (supposedly the
last 200 made). I always attributed it to somebody not familiar with
AMC's mistaking what they had. Anybody have the official word? To add
even more confusion is the fact that AMC supplied the GEN1 327 to Jeep
through the 68 model year so they either used up old engines and kept the
GEN1 in production for 2 years after they dropped it from their own model
line.
And here I thought I had it all figued out. haha
Wayne
Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:18:15 -0400
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] GEN1 to GEN2 changeover update
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My mistake on the EvilBay listing. I ran the VIN and found it was a 67
car. The pics were not coming through on my work 'puter so I just went
by the sellers description that it was a 66. Finally got all the pics to
load and it is a 67 Ambo. None the less, I have heard of GEN2 engines in
66 model year cars. Has anyone ever seen one?
Wayne
Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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" From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
"
"
" I have seen some information that late 66 model year cars came with the
" Gen 2 engines. Given the changes necessary to do that I doubt it would
" have happened until the full model year update for the 67 line and the
" []
i don't have the official word wither, but as you say it makes no
sense - unless the '66 and '67 crossmembers were the same or
interchangeable at least. i don't know how many 327s jeep bought;
they might've made a mass purchase in '65 and still be working through
the stockpile, but amc would've needed complete engines for several
years just for warrantee work, never mind parts, so i don't see any
point to ending gen1 usage before the end of '66 my production.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:37:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] American rear ends
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My 65 has an AMC 15, and it is a posi! I bought it
from the son of the original owner who was a mechanic
for the Portland Rambler dealer. He bought it new in
64. What sort of posi 15 was offered back then. It
isn't a big nut rear.
I have only seen one other non-Jeep 15 Posi and that
was a Hornet wagon......Russ
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:51:20 -0400
From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Temp sending unit question
To: "AMC LIST" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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My 1966 TSM says that the temp sending unit should read 70 ohms when cold
and 120 ohms when 212 degrees. I measured my new unit and the old unit after
removing it from the engine and NEITHER one reads anywhere near 70 ohms
cold. I get 268 ohms cold with the old one and about 258 ohms on the new
one. That is reading it from the electrical connector to the brass sensor
that goes into the block. What am I doing wrong. The TSM doesn't anything
about whether the gauge wire has to be connected to the unit while it is
screwed into place.
Jay
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:04:34 -0500
From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC INK
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The Aug. 2006 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines names the 69 SC/Rambler
as one of the top 12 muscle car legends and has a price guide for 66 thru
74 AMC's.
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:02:01 -0500
From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC INK - IPODS
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I know nothing about IPOD's MP3's, etc. as I am an AM man but the August
2006 issue of Musclecar Enthusiast does a 2-page story by Richard
Truesdell on the installation of an IPOD in his 69 Rambler.
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:14:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Jav drive line
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Since that tranny is just the T-10 you should be able
to get a yoke almost anywhere. You can then have a
driveline made up for less than a C-note. I had the
drive line for my Posi-20 Hornet I-6 mad up for $65. I
already had the yoke but even C***y used the T-10.
Any good tranny shop should have tranny listings, I
would think....Russ
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:47:19 -0400
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] IPODS in old cars
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We've been buying the bare connectors for them and making our own
interfaces and cradles, so far we've used aluminum and delrin to make
them out of. We've got a Miata that we built a port directly into the
console that gets rid of the need for the usual fm transmitters and that
stuff. We used a ipod Nano and the hole is exactly the size of the ipod
base itself. When it's not in use we made a small rubber plug that fills
the hole and it just disappears.
By not using the "universal" stuff it allows us to tailor them to the
car at hand and makes them easy to put anywhere. We have connectors that
sit at 90 (vertical) and 70 degrees (slightly slanted) but you can
orientate them on any plane you wish. They require very little depth
under the surface.
My 64 Pontiac was built with stealth in mind so we are coming up with a
really cool setup for it (should be done in another few weeks) and my
AMX is right behind. If you have multiple cars it really cool to be able
listen to your favorite stuff no matter what you are driving.
Audiophiles are entirely correct, you do lose fidelity with the
compressed formats, set up well though it's certainly livable especially
in a musclecar where it's not the audio providing the primary thrills.
The ipods through a factory head unit with some decent component
speakers sounds pretty awesome to 95% of the population.
~John
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From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jock J Jocewicz
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:02 PM
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Subject: [AMC-List] AMC INK - IPODS
I know nothing about IPOD's MP3's, etc. as I am an AM man but the August
2006 issue of Musclecar Enthusiast does a 2-page story by Richard
Truesdell on the installation of an IPOD in his 69 Rambler.
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:23:50 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] American rear ends
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Cc: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
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It was not an uncommon option here in the land of snow and ice.
I have 3:31 twingrip [AMC's Name] in my 69 and sold a unit from a 3;08 gear axle a while back. It's a non rebuildable cone type unit. They work good as long as you take care not to burn them up. A common problem was people putting missmatched rear tires on. The constant slippage wears the cones down and it stops working. The unit in my Car has about 110,000 miles on it IIRC and still works good.
Another quick way to ruin one is to get it hung up, get one wheel spinning, just let it sit there and spin the cones in the posi. These are not "locker" type units and won't take that kind of abuse. They don't ever seem to break, they just stop working.
Easiest way to search for one is to look for the sticker in the trunk or the shiny metal tag on the fill plug.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My 65 has an AMC 15, and it is a posi! I bought it
> from the son of the original owner who was a mechanic
> for the Portland Rambler dealer. He bought it new in
> 64. What sort of posi 15 was offered back then. It
> isn't a big nut rear.
> I have only seen one other non-Jeep 15 Posi and that
> was a Hornet wagon......Russ
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:26:40 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
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I've never actually seen one either, but have heard rumours of late 66 cars with Gen II engines.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> " From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
> "
> "
> " I have seen some information that late 66 model year cars came with the
> " Gen 2 engines. Given the changes necessary to do that I doubt it would
> " have happened until the full model year update for the 67 line and the
> " []
>
> i don't have the official word wither, but as you say it makes no
> sense - unless the '66 and '67 crossmembers were the same or
> interchangeable at least. i don't know how many 327s jeep bought;
> they might've made a mass purchase in '65 and still be working through
> the stockpile, but amc would've needed complete engines for several
> years just for warrantee work, never mind parts, so i don't see any
> point to ending gen1 usage before the end of '66 my production.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:37:28 GMT
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