AMC-List Digest, Vol 4, Issue 26

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: AM see (Mr. AMC)
   2. Re: 73 Matador 2 dr for sale (Tom Jennings)
   3. Creative engineering has always fascinated me, OTS (John Elle)
   4. Fw: upper control arms questions (Eddie Stakes)
   5. small-car 9x2.5" front drum brake setup on ePay... (Tom Jennings)
   6. Anyone straighten/re-chrome bumpers in Texas??? (Arfon)
   7. Re: Fw: upper control arms questions (John Elle)
   8. Nice Ebay item: AMX RH companion mirror (acskln)
   9. Re: 73 Matador & 71 Matador for sale (Eddie Stakes)
  10. Almost Done (Mr. AMC)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:45:09 -0400
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:42:50 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador 2 dr for sale
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On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 18:33, Eddie Stakes wrote:
> Eh, the one I had for sale was for sale for a staggering 6+ years. Have 
> NEVER Atried so hard to sell a AMC. Relentless ads for $4500, then $3500. 
> Put it on ebay with reserve not, once, not twice, but three times before 
> listing it for $1900 and NO reserve where it sold for $2650.

Eddie, that car was, let's say, not quite pristine when I looked at it.
I think it's condition had more to do with it not-selling than 'whatsa
matador?'


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:31:41 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Creative engineering has always fascinated me, OTS
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Yesterday I drove my Spirit (obligatory AMC reference) up to Apache
Junction to check on the progress of the replacement transmission in my
Chrysler T&C (obligatory function required when owning a MOPAR van) when
a fellow drove in driving what looked like a Harley Davidson boat tailed
roadster Trike! This was an eye full to say the least. There was a body
with a seat on it and a Harley Fork on the front but in back the body
had a boat tailed trunk, the axles were covered by body flares and set
right on the back was a Harley V twin sitting sideways. This was also
odd and also an eye full. Turned out he had mated a Harley V twin to a
Volkswagen automatic transmission transaxle.  This thing had to be seen
to be believed. Sorry this is not all an AMC report, this was a cleverly
done package. Of course typically the comments were positive on the
Spirit along with the statements that an AMC car had not been seen for
years. 
Had to mention this. 
John. 


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:01:47 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: upper control arms questions
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Mark Rancourt <rancourt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Anyone that might be able to help Mark out please feel free to comment, and 
also copy your reply to him, it is appreciated, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Rancourt" <rancourt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



>I hope you can help me with a problem I have created for my self. I started 
>to rebuild the front end on a 83 Spirit GT a couple of years ago and got 
>side-tracked. I think I may have gotten the upper control arms "switched", 
>when I installed the bushings and painted them. The only books I have are 
>for 70-74 and they show left & right upper arms. I can't tell left from 
>right. I know that the upper arm has a extra collar on the rear bushing. 
>but I may have put them on the wrong side. I know that my arms have  #146 & 
>#147 near the ball joint. My books don't seem to show left or right  as odd 
>or even. Can you help? any ideas?
>    Thanks Mark Rancourt



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:55:15 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] small-car 9x2.5" front drum brake setup on ePay...
To: amc-list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I listed my front drum setup on ePay, auction not visible until 730 PST
tonight. Hardly earth-shattering news, but a couple of people have asked
me about these parts so I thought I'd mention it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200000266725



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:17:23 -0500
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Anyone straighten/re-chrome bumpers in Texas???
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
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I need my bumpers fixed...  Anyone knows of some Texas shops (I'm in Austin).



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:29:44 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fw: upper control arms questions
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Mark,
SNIP
I can't tell left from right. I know that the upper arm has a extra
collar on the rear bushing.
SNIP
The control arms them selves are interchangeable from left to right and
from all AMC products except Pacer and Eagle from 1970 through end of
production. Just install the ones with the bushings, to the rear.
John.
 


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:51:25 -0400
From: "acskln" <acskln@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Nice Ebay item: AMX RH companion mirror
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-1968-69-AMC-AMX-Javelin-RH-companion-mirror_W0QQitemZ4638312264QQcategoryZ34204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:06:19 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador & 71 Matador for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:42 AM
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 18:33, Eddie Stakes wrote:
> Eh, the one I had for sale was for sale for a staggering 6+ years. Have
> NEVER Atried so hard to sell a AMC. Relentless ads for $4500, then $3500.
> Put it on ebay with reserve not, once, not twice, but three times before
> listing it for $1900 and NO reserve where it sold for $2650.
Tom Jennings wrote:
Eddie, that car was, let's say, not quite pristine when I looked at it.
I think it's condition had more to do with it not-selling than 'whatsa
matador?'Actually the big selling points (positives) were probably three 
things. 1. Ultra low mile original. 2. Heavy documentation from day one in 
Birmingham.3. The interior and body were solid, something mentioned by the 
buyer when he picked it up.The non selling points (negatives) were: 1. Rust 
in trunk (but NOT in 1/4s at allit was humidity rust; no other rust 
whatsoever on vehicle; 2. It was a 304, and while 210 horsepower, still a 
304. And being a Automatic, it had that piece of sheet AT AMCused from 70-71 
with the 304s, can't remember what it is but they deserve to be thrownin the 
bayou behind my house with all those Borg Warner M12 boat anchors that the 
snappingturtles love to sun themselves on. 3. And this should probably have 
been #1 as it was THEmost asked question in the about 2500 days (6-7 years) 
I tried to sell that car, but everyone wanted to know if it had Air 
Condition, and when I told them no, it didn't matterit had won America's Cup 
or had 13 original miles, it didn't have AC. One more note on that 71 
Matador I sold for $2650 after trying for so long. I mentionedthis earlier 
for those who saw my other post on this. The new owner flew into Houston, 
Texas and drove it home to Marietta, GA. Not without incident either! The 
poor bastard didn't even get out of Houston, and hit ainfamous import 
swallowing pothole on I-10. Ya'll can see how the State of Texas puts 
HappyFace on construction from basically Sealy, TX to Loop 610, which is the 
heaviest interchangein Texas. www.katyfreeway.org for happy loving feelings. 
When completed....it is supposed tobe something like TWENTY FOUR lanes 
across 1 1/2 miles south of me, yow, more lanes to clogwhen another 
Hurricane Rita comes 
this-a-way:http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/texas%20vs%20rita.htmBut it 
blew out a upper shock tower which was left somewhere on I-10. He spent 3 
hours ata Firestone, as they had to special order the shock, and also 
fabricate a shock tower. He called me later from New Orleans, where the 
lights went out, and car died in now infamousNinth Ward! He locked 
belongings in trunk (It had original AM logoed key) and walked to 
callrelative who came by and AAA towed it to family residence in Metaire, 
whereas he changed out the altenator and put new battery in it. Rest of trip 
the next day was uneventful and he saidthe car ran flawlessly and super 
smooth.Remember, while not "pristine" this was a car that was suddenly put 
on the road for a 600-800(?) mile road trip from Houston to Georgia. Tires 
were new....ten years ago. I didsome minor tune up on it, but whatever 
negatives the car might have had, sort of vanishedby the fact that it was 
driven on such a lengthy road trip after sitting so long. Still.....it was a 
A Matador. And I tried to sell it for so long it was like the David Blaine 
of AMCs holding your breath wishing for someone to come along and pick up a 
nicecar. Yes, it needed paint, carpet, and some trunk work inside, but to 
me, minor thingswhen looked at the bigger picture.Hopefully ya'll over in 
Peach State will get to see this booger in near future, take alittle extra 
time to look at it, even if you have to ask yourself What's A Matador?neat 
to see original low miler AMCs still out there.And in a shameless plug (you 
knew THAT was coming, duh) I still have a few left NOSNOS What's A Matador? 
postcars for $4 eachNOS large Matador X and Cassini postcards for $4 each74 
Special Dealership flyer with last year Ambassador $4559; first year Matador 
X coupe $3046;yellow Levis'X 304 for $2481; Levis Edition blue Hornet 
Hatchback $2799 and last year Javelin$2999, $7 for the cardboard NOS two 
sided flyerOleg Cassini white Matador coupe NOS postcard $3Anyone want a 
photo of them, email me directly. Also check my 'fee bay' auctionswhere I 
have a number of different NOS cards and 
brochures:http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZeddiestakesQQhtZ-1 Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:22:23 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Almost Done
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
	BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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After more hours than I care to remember I am finally  done with the
repairs and almost the  prep work on my grill so I can paint it. I hope
to never have to do this again in this life time or any other. As with
everything on this car in the last 2 1/2 years what appeared to be just
a freshening up with some paint on what appeared to be an undamaged
grill turned into a major project with all the hidden damage at all the
mounting points. Now if the weather would just co-operate I can start
painting the black monday. It's supposed to be cold and damp till next
thursday. :-(~~
"Doc"



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