Re: [Amc-list] AMC heater core and housing

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

No concrete date but I was told a couple of weeks which is basically 
what REM told me. REM took a week and a half to get back to me and I 
heard back from DMT right away so they got my business. No knock against 
REM (I've been happy with the stuff they make so far) but it's that 
whole early bird and worm thing.

There are for sure different part numbers for heater boxes between 
Javelin/AMC and American models (the boxes are also different between 
factory air and non-factory air cars) but the heater cores are the same 
(at least for 68). Some of the gaskets even fit all models.

Matt

On 4/17/2008 8:31 AM, Armand Eshleman spouted this sage advice:
> I think you could be correct, even though I believe the shape of the
>  heater box is different on the 68 and 69 from the 70 and 71 Americans and
> Javelins. The seals are probably very similar if not identical.
> The heater core is pretty close to the same on a lot of AMC models.
> 
> Did Detroit Muscle give you a time frame you can expect to see seals/gaskets
> in?
> Armand
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] AMC heater core and housing
> 
> 
>> Those gaskets are the same on American, Javelin, and AMX models for
>> 1968. I don't have a parts book that covers 69 or 70 but since the cars
>> didn't change much, they are probably the same.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 4/16/2008 8:39 AM, Armand Eshleman spouted this sage advice:
>>> Matt,
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>> The one inch thick seal above the heater box to the cowl had completely
>>> disintegrated on the Javelin
>>> so I had no idea of the thickness. The Javelin does have a 3/32" to
> 1/16"
>>> thick gasket between the
>>> heater box/core and the thicker gasket. Does the American have this too?
>>> I have a few pictures from the 70 Javelin. May I send them to you so you
> can
>>> compare
>>> them to your American heater box gaskets?
>>> Or if you have photos of the American you could send them to me.
>>> I don't have a 69 TSM so I don't have anything to compare to.
>>>
>>> Armand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] AMC heater core and housing
>>>
>>>
>>>> Assuming that the foam seals are the same on them as they are on 68's,
>>>> I'm in the process of getting those made up with Detroit Muscle
>>>> Technologies. They are doing a complete heater box set for Americans
> but
>>>> the foam around the heater core also fits Javelin and AMX. Since REM
>>>> makes the seal between the motor mounting plate and heater box and the
>>>> mounting plate to motor seal, I'm not having them make those. REM also
>>>> makes the heater core tube seal for cars with both 5/8" and 3/4"
> nipples
>>>> but 67 and older use two 5/8" nipples on the heater core (DMT is doing
>>> that)
>>>> As far as the seals go, here is what should be there:
>>>> * Each air door is covered with foam on one side and has a foam bump
>>>> strip on the other.
>>>> * If there is an extension tube to the defroster duct (American's have
>>>> this), there is a seal between it and the duct.
>>>> * The heater box to cowl seal is 1" thick uncompressed and 10 7/8" x 7
>>>> 3/4" with rounded corners on the interior side.
>>>> * There are gaskets on the sides of the heater core so it doesn't move
>>>> side to side.
>>>> * There is a gasket between the front of the heater core and the
>>>> firewall (the heater core tubes go through it).
>>>> * There is a seal that goes over the heater core tubes.
>>>> * There is a seal between the blower motor and mounting plate.
>>>> * There are grommets over each of the blower motor mounting studs.
>>>> * There is a seal between the motor mounting plate and heater box.
>>>> * There may be gaskets between the heater box and firewall.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/2008 8:15 AM, Armand Eshleman spouted this sage advice:
>>>>> Looking for assistance here, please help.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sending the foam gasket and seals pieces from my 70 Javelin heater
>>> core
>>>>> area and blower housing
>>>>> to REM in Pennsylvania. They are the guys that make the firewall foam
>>>>> pieces. If this works out I
>>>>> think some of this will interchange with other years and models too.
>>>>> I have the drawings from the 70 TSM that I will scan and send along.
>>> It's on
>>>>> page 13-7 figure 18.
>>>>> I think the non a/c and a/c equipped is the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for an exploded view from a parts catalog. If you have
> that
>>>>> please scan the view and send it to me
>>>>> at aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Please send comments if you can offer any additional information or
> have
>>>>> seen the foam pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm unsure of what goes between the heater core and blower housing and
>>> the
>>>>> bottom of the cowl inlet/outlet, other than I know
>>>>> there is a thin foam seal laying immediately on top of the heater
> core.
>>> Is
>>>>> there also a thicker less dense foam seal on top of that??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Armand
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>> 1967 Rambler American wagon
>> 1968 Rambler American sedan
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