RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Ebay Mile Liars
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RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Ebay Mile Liars




As Tom said, it *IS* possible that the cars are all 
actually low-mileage examples, with their high-mile 
Counterparts, now long gone.

Most of the cars with the lower miles tend to be the 
'toys' of their owners, so they never saw the daily-
use of their 4-door and wagon sisters. Find a 60k 
Matador wagon and THAT will be suspicious! But a 60k
coupe is not unreasonable.

And how many 40 year old cars are in daily use anyway?
Many AMCs have been parked to rot or stored for decades,
So their mileage simply hasn't risen much since the 
1980s. If it had 67,000 in 1982, it's completely 
reasonable to find it has only 69,000 in 2005.

Looking through the listings you mentioned, tho, I
note the following for each...


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Gable

1969 Javelin 63,500 (Looks very likely)
1966 Rambler American 440 98,446 (98k is 'low'??)
1976 Hornet 72,408 (Condition looks like 20k!)
1960 Rambler Deluxe 87,000 (the car sure looks good, even for 30k!)
1966 Marlin 68,502 (68k good miles, then years sitting in the NM
sun...nothing fishy here. Oo, a pun!!)
1969 Ambassador SST 43,000  (Looks likely)
1968 AMX 54,571 (Who knows....but needs total resto, so what does the
mileage matter anyway?)
1960 Rambler Custom 68,500 (Again, looks awfully clean and original)

1974 Matador 922,337,204!! (I bet actual miles is less)

1968 AMX 30,500 (Documentation on hand, clean car)
1969 Rambler 20,000 (THIS car is suspect...that seat looks like more
than 20k worth of wear)
1976 Pacer 84,000 (Gorgeous at half that much mileage...and factory
AM/FM/8-Track and DIGITAL clock!)
1970 Javelin 74,616 (He states 'odometer doesn't work'. Case closed)
1970 Rebel Machine 68,358 (He states 'I have owned this car for many
years 
                      (about 25).' If he can prove it's ben off the road
all those years...)
1960 Rambler 61,000 (Come on, LOOK at it! If it's got 161k, it was on an
indoor treadmill for all of it)
1960 Rambler Ambassador 79,000 (He states 'Was parked about 17 years
ago'...so 79k by 1988, 0 since)


Only one of these examples seems to be obviously inaccurate.
The rest look quite plausible.

But then, mileage means NOTHING to me, as there are 10k cars I'll 
never buy and 200k cars I'd love to own. It's about care and 
maintenance. My '95 Tracer was a $100 parts car at 85k miles 
becaused it was battered to death by a dysfunctional batch of 
kids that didn't care about mom's car. My '73 Hornet has 122k
anal-retentively-maintained miles and I can drive it to Alaska 
tomorrow, and I wouldn't sell it for $5000.

The condition of the pedals, the headliner, seats and firewall 
will say far more about that car than that one silly gauge can 
ever tell you. But like a coat of wax and a shiny set of wheels, 
folks love to buy based on the most pointless observations.

John



 
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