Davis, It is possible that you saw 73 cars with the three piece grill but this doesn't mean they came from the factory that way.I have seen two Gremlins with early Hornet grills as well but I am pretty positive they did not come from the factory that way. As you know--being pretty knowledgeable about Gremlins--the 74 Redesign had several minor changes including huge ugly bumpers with no plastic filler panel between the car and the bumper, different indentations on the rear quarter panels(from horizontal to diagonal) 100mph speedos instead of 120mph, moving the license plate from below the bumper to below the fuel filler and the aforementioned grills. There were also some 74s which had the push button latch for the rear hatch instead of the lever. I put AFAIK in my other posting because when it comes to AMC, there is no way that you can say something is "certain" If they ran out of a part they would just grab a part from a bin and bolt it on. Especially in 74 when they actually had an extra long model year(I believe because of the higher emissions standards and unleaded fuel in 75) Ah, now I'm rambling. Anyway, I have loads of AMC docs and none mention the possibility of this grill starting in late '73 but that may mean nothing. Peace Paul Subject: Re: Re: NOS Gremlin Grill on eBay Paul, No offense taken. I see you have conflicting statemeants. First you said they did not change then you say AFAIK. I have seen 73 gremlins with the 3 piece grilles and could show you many pics but that isn't proof. Prove to me that the grilles were not changed in mid year. I have my information from Tom Benvie. I also have been researching and building gremlins for the passed 18 years. I am on my 8th gremlin. I am sure there are others out there that have been into grems alot longer but I have learned alot and seen alot. ( not that I know it all ) I wounder if Eddie or some one has a parts book or some other documentation to show when the change was exactally. Also in 73 the bumpers were changed and 5MPH bumpers were added. The design on the door panels is different. 72 did have the gremlin guy plaque on the door pannel as well. Did you also know that some 70 gremlins didn't have a glovebox? Mine was one of those gremlins and I just located a dash incert that goes where it is supposed to be. Anyway I am rambling now. Davis Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/