Re: [AMC-list] American wagons...

[wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Tom,
    You'll find an American 64-69 Rambler to be pretty much a 63-64 classic body squeezed down a bit. They change the trunion style, no big deal, they lost that cluster F*#k of trans mounts that hold the Drive lines fore-aft placement. 

   I like the shift changes made to do away with D1-D2 and the loss of the cable to the trans. I'd look for stick to though. 

   The thing is they kept changing until like yesterday...so every year has its differences. 
 
   I know you like linkage throttles, I think those went away mid year 68 with the crash upgrades to structure. 

   
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From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:39:46 
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Subject: Re: [AMC-list] American wagons...

Thanks for the words, Bruce. I'm slowly moving in the direction of a
non-wagon. I think a 65 (earlyish) American is the way to go. There's far
more of them than wagons. I honestly don't care 2 or 4 doors, both have
their advantages. I imagine 4 doors are easier to find. A sedan will be
better as a daily driver (though the dogs love the station wagon most of all
-- they hang out in it when I leave the doors open parked in the yard).
There's only one hardtop, 67? Unlikely to find one. Wouldn't rule it out
though if I did!

I should have enough money to buy someone's full restoration. I'm not saying
I will keep it totally stock, but a clean intact car with good paint and the
right setup, I doubt I'd do more than bolt-on changes (wheels, tires,
Pertronix, etc). Speakers in the door and rear shelf would be the biggest
atrocities. Probably remove any stereo, return the AM radio, these days, I
do a brick amp under the seat with the 1/8" stereo plug to an iPod clone.
Nothing to steal!

I know the feeling about "cheating", and it not being *my* project, but
buying someone's resto is a hell of a lot better than buying some stock 90's
used plastic car! And the one thing I can't do for the next year or so is a
full ground-up project.


It's gotta be a six, and I strongly prefer no power steering nor power
brakes. Prefer manual, but auto would not be a deal killer on the right car.
I honestly think the 199 or 232 would be better; mileage matters more than
power for daily use.


I don't know the details in the 64 - 69 models (I like the earlier body
styles better), I know some years (69?) there's a good selection of front
suspension and such aftermarket. Not sure about the early stuff, but
trunnions are not one of my worries.

I probably wouldn't even do a disc swap; I'd do what I did to my little
American. The fully ventilated brakes are GREAT.


Yeah, it will tow the little trailer just fine. Like I do now, just slow
down for the tough stuff,  crawling a long hill with a trailer is like .001%
of my driving time, saving that extra hour on a long trip isn't worth the
cost of a bigger car that other 99.999% of the time. We've found that the
camper negates the need to cram the wagon full of crap.



On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> That sounds like a great driving/camping/cruising project!
>
> Tom, I've taken my '65 American sedan camping - and while it is not a
> wagon, it is a nice little car. It did well with the 600 pound or so
> popup. It's fun to drive. I love draping an arm on the bench seat, or
> hanging a hand on the open vent window. But when I give it thought -
> the idea of a Rebel or Matador wagon keep popping up.
>
> I know you don't like the newer cars with plastic and all that. But I
> wonder if a Rebel wagon with a 232 and 3 speed manual would make a
> good every day car? Easier parts, still a Rambler.
>
> But on the other hand, an American with a 232 and 3 speed manual would
> be pretty cool, too. Especially a wagon. Have fun searching and
> deciding!
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Tom if you wanted a project I have a 63 Classic wagon, less than 80,000
> miles (I forget exactly), sat in Nevada  for over 20 years..   195.6
> aluminum (stuck) BW/auto.  The interior is cooked but I have an NOS dash
> pad, extra 195.6, or I have a 232 freshly rebuilt, Ambassador seats
> (somewhat matching the tan Classic interior).  All fairly cheap.  Wagon
> needs paint and all the mechanicals gone through.  The underside looks
> factory new though, unbelievably clean.  Brake lines and fuel lines are
> still bright.  Oh and I have a windsheld for it.  Lower tail gate is rusty,
> but I have still another one if you don't use the spare I sold you.  This
> thing is a time machine.
> >
> > Joe Fulton
> >
> >
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