Re: [AMC-list] quick ratio turns question

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The power steering is not too bad for feel on the 70's up cars.
I have a 73 Hornet box in mine and use a 4.0L pump with the Wrangler pressure valve.
The Wrangler got around 800psi, iirc and the little XJ got around 950-1000 psi.
I'd need a TSM to get the exact numbers, but the combo has nice, to me road feel
and is plenty responsive.
  The 60's cars were all jacked up, IMHO. too much pressure the wrong valving in the 
boxes. Great for grandpa and grandma, but yuck for road feel etc,
  The convertible gets a 12.7-1 93 Grand Cherokee box and a revalved Saginaw pump :)
They used Saginaw/GM pumps on the 327 in the Jeep trucks :) Easy to revalve those pumps
for less pressure, heck, easy to revalve any P/S pump for less pressure. Except for 
the new electronic crap.
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- "tom jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: "tom jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:15:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] quick ratio turns question
>
> My '70 Hornet, a 'stripper', had a fast steering box in it -- 2.5
> turns lock
> to lock. Really. It was NICE! 108" wheelbase, to the AMX's what, 98?
> Well
> under 3 turns, and yes, it had the right steering stops in it. No
> signs it
> had ever been removed/replaced. I'm convinced it was factory.
> Requested
> option or top of the pile? We'll never know.
> 
> I hate power steering though, hate hate hate. Feels like those drivers
> ed
> machines from the 70's, or stirring a pot of water with an oar. My
> Classic
> and AMerican both are manual, steering effort is good for you. 17"
> factory
> wheel on the CLassic, but a 15" Mooneyes green metal flake on the
> American.
> "Suffer for beauty" I say. Makes for a strenuous workout in a rally I
> can
> tell you. I had blisters on the second day. I wish it were a faster
> ratio,
> but on that car, there is simply no choice. If there was, I'd buy
> gloves.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 19:55, Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > " From: "Steven F. Brueggeman" <amcer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > "
> > " The quick-ratio in the '70 AMX I had a few years back was just 3
> 1/2
> > turns
> > " lock-to-lock. It was a handful.
> >
> > i have one on my '68 american and i would've said 3 even, but
> that's
> > close enough.
> >
> > by other measures the quick-ratio box was reckoned 16:1, the
> > medium-fast 20:1, and the stock american 24:1.  that would put it
> in
> > the 5t l-l range.  7 would be glacially slow.
> >
> > " ----- Original Message -----
> > " From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > "
> > "
> > " >A fellow called me today and asked me how many turns is a quick
> ratio
> > " >Javelin 68 steering box. Sort of like how many bites does it take
> to get
> > to
> > " >the center of a tootsie pop. Anyways, he said 5, I said I believe
> 7,
> > feel
> > " >free to comment here and thanks.
> >
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