Re: [AMC-list] Jeep Q (mainly for Andrew and Jim)

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

IIRc correctly my cousin asked me about the tranny options for a new ford 1/2 ton he was buying.
his choice was between a non O/D and higher axle ratio or the O/D trans and higher gearset.

I know he was talking only 4x4 truck and this owuld have been somewhere between 1979 and 1985ish.
So, I would suspect the O/D trans did make it into some ford trucks.
Be darned if I know how many though!
Time to get looking!

Someday, I'm going to find me one of those O/D toploaders and build me a Rambler with a column shifted fourspeed! with O/D!
or, maybe not...

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:00:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Jeep Q  (mainly for Andrew and Jim)

" From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
" 
" One of my Jeep J-10s has a T-176 four speed (1983 model), the other has 
" a three speed (1975 -- I suppose a T-15A). Will one of the Ford 
" three-speed +OD (fourth gear is OD) transmissions bolt to either bell 
" housing? What about a Ford five speed (or some other model)? I was 
" looking at tires and gear ratios, and I realized I might be better off 
" using the lower gearset I have (3.54) and using an OD trans with a 
" 28-29" tire instead of using a large diameter tire to keep highway rpm 
" reasonable (no more than 2500 @ 70 mph is the goal), yet still have good 
" pulling power at low speeds. I know the 3+OD has a big jump between 3rd 
" and OD (dad had one years ago), but OD would only be used for interstate 
" driving without a load anyway. I won't do much long distance driving 
" with the truck, but would like to be able to nonetheless.

the t176 is a tremec-made ford toploader.  there are several versions
of 3+o/d toploaders, some used in pickups, dunno if with 4wd...  but
afaik advance adapters can help you there.  they have 1st in the low
3s, o/d not as high as the 5.0 t5's or even the warner r10/r11.

btw, 3rd is actually the o/d; linkage is jiggered to swap 3rd and 4th.

the t15 has a warner bolt pattern, but a '75 -might- have a t150,
which is a 3sp toploader.

both the t150 and the t17x have the big ford rectangle bolt pattern
and retainer, but the t17x has a gm spline and pilot.

you'll need a clutch disk and pilot bearing for a t150.

tremec has several aftermkt 5sp based on the toploader, good for up to
600 ft-lb.  they've changed names a time or two; dunno if they have
4wd versions.

afaik all the ford truck 5sp have other bolt patterns or integral
bells.
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