Re: [Amc-list] 'Flexible Flyers' - Radial Tires.

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

You can compensate for sloping pads with shims under the tires.
Front work can be done easier by sandwiching commercial floor tile with wax paper between it.
Once you get the footprint of the car you can mark the pad.
Make up shims to level it at the pads. Note it all down. Next time you need to align your good to go, unless the pad has settled! Or  the wheelbase is different!
  For toe I'm still in the stone age. I use a tape measure to a section of tread and hope I get the same spot front to rear. I need to make up the stuff to do it correctly.
  Way back when, the old timer at the first dealership I worked at use a spring loaded contraption with a nail in it.
You jacked the corner of the car up. Chalked the tire while rotating it. Then you placed this spring loaded gizmo with the nail against the tire and then rotated the tire marking the chalk. You could either measure or use a real toe gauge agains the mark in the chalk. It was fool proof, well almost, since you were ignoring an irregularities in the tires. Should be easy to make to with some scrap steel.
  My Camber gaugeis just a little cheap one from a circle track place. But it seems to be accurate enough. If I had more cars I'd buy a better one. I always figured I was doing it till I could take it to the shop. The first time I tookit to the shop it left worse then it arrived!
  YMMV!

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
" I was different before people dared to be different" 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 01:38 +0000, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I have run 1/2 degree neg camber on quite a few vehicles, everything from an 
> 86 Niss 4X4 to my current American with no real noticeable ill effects on tire 
> wear.
> >    The only wear was to the inside of the drivers side front tire due to road 
> crown. That is kept to a minimum by rotation. Yes, I rotate side to side. I've 
> done so for 20 years and NEVER had a tire lose a belt or otherwise fail from it. 
> You will be told by many people you can't do that. Check you manuals, all of the 
> ones I have now recomend cross rotation.
> >   I've destroyed more tires from the factory positive camber specs! Drive the 
> vehicle hard with positve camber and you'll eat the tires alive.
> 
> There are some tires with directional wear patterns, but few (I had a
> set of Yokos like that) but I too rotate tires -- five on my Hornet, old
> style -- and they last a long time. 
> 
> 
> >   I ended up buying my own camber caster gauge because I was tired of the 
> morons at the tire shops saying, "Sorry the outside tread is wearing off your 
> tires. It is with in factory specs, That'll be $39.95"!
> >    The lowbuck gauge cost me $35. Now I do it my way! 
> 
> You mentioned that before and I meant to ask -- so that's working out
> OK? Does it require flat and level surface, or can it compensate for
> non-level? I've got a nice concrete pad but it's sloped slightly.
> 
> What do you do for toe?
> 
> 
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