Ok, I get the picture now,,,,,,,,,, They only sell the drum less the center hub? I guess that is what threw me. I have to remove the studs and replace them on the hub after sliding the new drum on the hub. Ok, I'll check into this before I return these drums to NAPA.. You can tell I am a novice mechanic. I have never had to do this before. I had always got a new drum WITH the center hub already attached. Jay _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list