Re: [Amc-list] Looking for parts & advice.

[Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>]

It was a great deal, especially considering the fellow in question (one 
of my cow orkers) was parting out the whole Cherokee and let me come by 
and steal other parts occasionally when necessary. The costs didn't end 
there, though. Depending on the trans you use, you'll need a CPS sensor 
relocation kit (@$300, IIRC) a fuel pump (I used a Holley, $125?)  and 
if you want to get the most out of it you'll need to upgrade the whole 
exhaust system to 2.25" tubing (for mine, about 500 including cat and 
turbo muffler). If you want detailed info on my project, let me know. If 
you want to see pictures, go to the Yahoo Eagle group, I've got some 
posted in the folder "Keleigh's Kars"...

Keleigh

 Russell T. Neyhart wrote:
> Hi Keleigh,
>
>   $400.00 sounds like a good deal to me.  I also have another factor to help me decide one way or the other when it comes to engine swaps and other major work... no garage or carport!  This is why I haven't installed the Howell yet.
>
> Russ
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Mar 9, 2007 8:47 AM
>> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Looking for parts & advice.
>>
>> I have a 4.0 in my Eagle, originally because I got it cheap, only 400 
>> clams for the engine, complete with all EFI parts and harnesses. It has 
>> about 50% more power than the stock 258, better mileage and 
>> driveability, and is less troublesome (less maintenance and oil leaks). 
>> The 258 has better low end torque, the 4.0 revs better, you pays your 
>> money and you takes your choice. Overall, I agree with Andrew, a good 
>> 258 w/ the EFI kit will give you most of what a 4.0 upgrade would cost, 
>> but cheaper and without the hassle of an engine swap. If you really want 
>> more power, you might consider just the 4.0 head. Or if you really want 
>> more power, put your 258 crank in a 4.0 block for a 4.9. I hear strokers 
>> rock!
>>
>> Keleigh
>>
>> Sandwich Maker wrote:
>>     
>>> " From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> " 
>>> " 
>>> " Is the 4.0 liter really that much "better" than the 258?  Would anyone 
>>> " in "normal" driving even notice?  For instance, I have a Howell EFI 
>>> " setup (not installed yet) so someday the BBD setup will be a nice 
>>> " conversation piece in my workshop, with the EFI setup would there be 
>>> " much if any real difference between the two engines, performance or 
>>> " economy wise?  I have a relatively low mileage engine for the year and 
>>> " don't see any reason why I'd want to swap it for a 4.0 for regular duty 
>>> " just putting around town and going to shows.  If there is a thread that 
>>> " has discussed this already... please point the way!
>>>
>>> dunno about the howell, but the 258 with the mopar efi kit was rated
>>> 160-170 hp.  that makes the jump to 4.0 power a lot smaller and the
>>> 4.0's cam doesn't have the low-rpm power the 258's does.
>>>
>>> if you needed a new engine the 4.0 would be a reasonable choice, but i
>>> don't think it'd be worth scrapping what you already have.
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