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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Speaking Of Carburetors (Mr. AMC)
   2. Checking Interest.... (mike)
   3. Re: Speaking of Suspensions (John Elle)
   4. Re: speaking of carburetors (Jim Blair)
   5. Re: Speaking of Suspensions (Tom Jennings)
   6. Can anyone help this person? (Richard Estermyer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 07:24:13 -0500
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Speaking Of Carburetors
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Every Carb kit I have seen in the last 40 years has an exploded view and
parts list in the Kit.
"Doc"



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 07:43:08 -0500
From: "mike" <rmns10910@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Checking Interest....
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Just checking interest.....75-76 Gremling project near Tampa 258 disc brakes 
factory aluminum ralleys  x model $700.
mike
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. speaking of carburetors (Armand Eshleman)
>   2. painting with tremclad. and patience (Teamamc)
>   3. who had the free 258-6? (Eddie Stakes)
>   4. Re: speaking of carburetors (Todd Tomason)
>   5. Junkyard Javelin in KC (Todd Tomason)
>   6. Re: speaking of carburetors (Tom Jennings)
>   7. Speaking of Suspensions (Brien Tourville)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 18:28:52 -0600
> From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] speaking of carburetors
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> I have a Carter AFB for an AMC. It was swapped from I don't know where for
> sure
> onto a 79 304 along with a cast iron intake. I got the carb but it needs
> rebuilding. I
> took it apart and started cleaning it. Then I was forced to leave it lay 
> for
> a couple
> weeks. Now I'm screwed and can't remember how the linkages go back 
> together.
> Does anyone have an exploded view of one of these AFB monsters from I 
> would
> presume a late 60's 290 or 343 four barrel engine. If I could get an
> exploded view
> I think I could reassemble the thing. Does the carb rebuild kit have an
> exploded view
> in the instructions???
> Where is the best spot to find a good quality kit??
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Armand
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:32:08 -0600
> From: Teamamc <Teamamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] painting with tremclad. and patience
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <004f01c7008a$f90c7ae0$6700a8c0@FAST>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0
> &fpart=1&vc=1
>
> Above is a really cool thread on painting a car with tremclad.
> $75.00 paint job and a roller.
>
> Unbelievable.
>
> I am going to try it.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:58:43 -0600
> From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] who had the free 258-6?
> To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <022a01c7008e$e22ca080$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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>
> Check out this nice 74 Matty that needs a 258-6. I don't remember who it 
> was
> in NY(?) who had a free running 258, but heck, someone would end up with a
> sweet coffin nose here should they pursue it further. No bids at $367, the
> car is in NY city I think:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-AMC-MATADOR-4D-6-cyl-COFFIN-NOSE-Body-new-tires-74_W0QQitemZ330045999766QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> Email is currently HEAVY
> 5-12 day reply times, call if important
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:47:05 -0600
> From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] speaking of carburetors
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <200611042247.05909.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Armand,
>
> Here's a company in Missouri that manufactures their own kits.  I've heard 
> of
> them, but don't know much about them.
>
> http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Carbshop_kits.htm
>
> Todd
>
> On Saturday 04 November 2006 18:28, Armand Eshleman wrote:
>> I have a Carter AFB for an AMC. It was swapped from I don't know where 
>> for
>> sure
>> onto a 79 304 along with a cast iron intake. I got the carb but it needs
>> rebuilding. I
>> took it apart and started cleaning it. Then I was forced to leave it lay
>> for a couple
>> weeks. Now I'm screwed and can't remember how the linkages go back
>> together. Does anyone have an exploded view of one of these AFB monsters
>> from I would presume a late 60's 290 or 343 four barrel engine. If I 
>> could
>> get an exploded view
>> I think I could reassemble the thing. Does the carb rebuild kit have an
>> exploded view
>> in the instructions???
>> Where is the best spot to find a good quality kit??
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Armand
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:53:10 -0600
> From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] Junkyard Javelin in KC
> To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <200611042253.10021.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> There's a 73 Javelin at the Pick-an-Pull (aka U-Wrench-It) in Kansas City.
> It's been there about a week, but there's still some parts left.  I'm not
> sure how much longer it'll be there.  Maybe a week or two.
>
> It was t-boned on the passenger side.  It was a very nice car before it 
> was
> hit.  The quarters are rock solid, and there's no rust in the trunk.  It
> looks like it was always garaged.
>
> Todd
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:34:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] speaking of carburetors
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611042333010.4618@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Armand Eshleman wrote:
>
>> I think I could reassemble the thing. Does the carb rebuild kit have an
>> exploded view
>> in the instructions???
>> Where is the best spot to find a good quality kit??
>
> There's an excellent aftermarket bnook on the Carter/Edelbrock
> carbs, Peterson (Petersen?) maybe. Totally worth buying. Called
> something clever like "Tuning Edelbrock Carburetors".
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:47:22 -0500
> From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] Speaking of Suspensions
> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <454D50BA.9225.3404AE1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> check this freak :
>
> http://www.lextreme.com/sc430tt.html
>
>        =Bt=
>  milnersXcoupe
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 08:49:34 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Speaking of Suspensions
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000301c700f2$01e13310$a8dc0d82@john1>
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But!
SNIP
check this freak :
 
 <http://www.lextreme.com/sc430tt.html>
http://www.lextreme.com/sc430tt.html
SNIP
 
That is cold hard cash going into this thing. It sort of 
makes the 2 grand wanted for a bolt on Mustang II 
suspension including disc. brakes, rack and pinion
and power steering that is being proposed for our AMC
cars look like so much chump change. Or will Rambler
mentality doom it to failure before the first shipping 
box is opened.
John. 


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:30:04 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] speaking of carburetors
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

On the AFB, there should be an exploded view on Edelbrock's website that 
will be close enough to work.



   Last night was "fun" with all the rain and other things going on. (we're 
expecting another 4-10" today after a brief clearing this AM) Just as we 
were about to close the store last night (NAPA), I went outside to help a 
customer install her wipers (rain was just about zero at that point). I got 
one on, then looked up to see an 8' ball of fire come out of one of the 
perimeter lights next door (less than 100 feet from me). Ordinarily, this 
wouldn't be a big deal, BUT the place next door is a Chevron gas station!
   1/2 way between me and the fire was the vapor vents for the gas station's 
fuel tanks and 50 feet the other way was the gas pumps which were in use! 
Without panicking a lot, I tried to go in the out door (can't do that, and I 
know better!) which was right behind me, so I pounded on the door to get the 
assistant manager's attention. Then I ran inside through the right door, and 
grabbed the fire extinguisher (taking enough time to make sure it was 
electric fire compatible) and told the AM to call 911 as there was a fire at 
the gas station next door.
    I ran across the parking lot, and aimed at the light (I was surprised 
with the wind and rain that I was able to spray that high up! Probably 25' 
or more up) and it went out about 20 seconds before the fire dept showed up. 
(somehow I managed to slice my thumb open on the extinguisher handle) We all 
looked up at it in amazement as the light bulb was even intact! (I figure 
the oil from the transformer dripped down and pooled in the lens till it 
ignited)
   Fire dept guys asked me how I knew just what to do, and I explained that 
I grew up in a little backwater area in Surrey, British Columbia where most 
guys were volunteer fire fighters. The lead fireman quipped "Next time 
there's a fire, we'll call you!" and they all laughed. (I tried out for 
Seattle fire dept before I became "too old" to qualify and I was beat out by 
12 others who got hired in a field of 75 who showed up)
   After that, I came home and relaxed a bit (did some emails) as the rain 
was drenching everything again. Then I popped over to my friend Brian's 
place (perfect timing as the rain totally cleared till we were just putting 
things away) and we put another filter on his car (old one was filled solid 
again with fine sediment) from a TBI system. It still wasn't running good so 
we popped the top off the carb and the "silt" was almost an inch deep 
inside! (I had a carb kit for the BBD just in case, but we didn't need it)
   1/2 a can of carb cleaner and a few adjustments later, we had it back 
together and went for a test drive. Trans was shifting poorly with the 
renewed engine power, so I lengthened the passing gear rod and that fixed 
most of it (there is a shudder when it locks up, so I figure he'll be 
replacing the torque converter very soon or someone got on it hard before 
and twisted the input shaft at the front drum. I've seen that before)
   All in all, last night was both exciting and productive! Sadly, we found 
out an XJ diff was 2" wider than an '82 Spirit, but he'll be able to rob the 
brake parts along with backing plates to "upgrade" the rear brakes to 10". 
Maybe we can have the XJ D35 axle shortened and resplined to fit the Model 
15?

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:14:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Speaking of Suspensions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611051009380.4618@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, John Elle wrote:

> That is cold hard cash going into this thing. It sort of 
> makes the 2 grand wanted for a bolt on Mustang II 
> suspension including disc. brakes, rack and pinion
> and power steering that is being proposed for our AMC
> cars look like so much chump change. Or will Rambler
> mentality doom it to failure before the first shipping 
> box is opened.

If my project car budget was $50K+, shit howdy, Nick would
be building me a turbo aluminum 196 right now, and his front
susp. would be on order for the rod/two-seater sport I'd
be making from a sectioned bathtub American. THAT's Rambler
Mentality.



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:56:03 -0500
From: "Richard Estermyer" <javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Can anyone help this person?
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY106-F4217D9B56628A03F81F5EDDFC0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Well, he isn't asking for help though.
Usually what is on the AmericanMotorsCorporation news group come along here. 
  Has anyone seen this.
What is the reality of this "truth" anyway.

Thanks
Richard
Richard Estermyer
javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx



1.  My 74 Hornet HB From: opusinterra
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1.
My 74 Hornet HB
Posted by: "opusinterra" opusinterra@xxxxxxxxx   opusinterra
Thu Nov 2, 2006 11:00 pm (PST)


I Dont know how to say this ,,,,But First, know Ive always loved
A.M.C.. I own a gremlin a hornet a comando and a cherokee. But
recently I read about engine weights and found a 302 is half the
weight of a 304.
I was toying with the idra of a stroker ( 304 bored 40 over to
acept a 360 head [20% larger valve stock ]and early 70s forged 390
crank ), when I ran into a problem with the journals.
For less than half the price of all that I could put a mustang 302
with 4 speed auto inplace of the 727. disc kit on the model 20,
Coilovers infront,edelbrock TPI and i'll smoke anything. GOD HELP ME!
opusintrra@xxxxxxxxx

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