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Blown Pacer (Brien Tourville) 14. 63 Rambler - Runs (JOE FULTON) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:25:30 EDT From: Poncho7amx@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] chilson show To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <523.6766118.322c23ba@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" it was great but the rain had to put a damper on it. the food was good and the people were frendly. thanks to gordy again ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:02:33 -0400 From: markskur1@xxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-List] Late Production 74 AMX To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <8C89D78BCC51536-32C-2422@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's a tough one to figure out: The 74 AMX that I bought from Fred Phillip's collection was built in August 1974 and has the "urban legend" steel hood. I am trying to determine how rare a genuwine steel hood 74 AMX is. Out of the 4980 built in 1974, how many would you estimate were built from Aug-Nov 1974? Thanks, Mark Skurnick 74 Mellow Yellow AMX Survivor ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:01:33 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Shipping a Hood To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F216E7C5B4276C03A2987CCAC320@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A: I shipped a Grand Wagoneer tailgate to Noo Joisey. It arrived in unusable condition and unceremoniously returned and dumped on my front lawn without the slightest hint of why. I was lucky to be home and catch the driver who THREW it over my fence! ( I heard the thump and came out to investigate) There was a tire track across the package that I found out came from the truck of the driver in Jersey. Same driver had been fined by the company previously for DRAGGING a genuine Leonardo Da Vinci bust on pedestal across the street and LEAVING it on the sidewalk rather than pull into their more than adequate size parking lot! (same company restored art) He caused $50,000 damage to the bust and nearly wiped out one of Leonardo's works permanently. Took me a long time to get the money out of UPS (in the meantime I had to refund the seller's money) Granted that's the only problem I've had with UPS other than them taking apart a crate I built for a 727 trans (they tried to claim in Texas that the package was over the weight limit by 50 lbs, but I used the UPS scale in Seattle to weigh it and had the slip to prove it. They tried to bill me for 3 shipping pieces but that didn't fly either) From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Shipping a Hood To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <44FA7662.11835.20F160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm still 'doin a Nose Job & have a hood I need to get home from Oakdale CT. 06370 to New Paltz, NY 12561. The drive is some 3+ hours being 6 round trip with a good wind behind the Cherokee - gas alone would probably pay shipping costs: anyone ship a Hood before ? Brien Tourville NEW YORK - _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/trial.aspx?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:03:37 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all AMC models names To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F1B058A087EEB4330C9C53AC320@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I don't see the Sportabout or 77 Hornet AMX, or '78 up Concord AMX. _________________________________________________________________ Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it now! http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:09:17 -0500 From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Shipping a Hood To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <C18A2D63-435B-4DDE-93FA-E064092FA3CC@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I have shipped a hood via Greyhound before. Covered it in cardboard sent it halfway across country for 55 dollars. Had to be picked up at the terminal. On Sep 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Brien Tourville wrote: > > I'm still 'doin a Nose Job & have a hood > I need to get home from Oakdale CT. 06370 > to New Paltz, NY 12561. > > The drive is some 3+ hours being 6 round trip > with a good wind behind the Cherokee - > gas alone would probably pay shipping costs: > > anyone ship a Hood before ? > > > Brien Tourville > NEW YORK > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com Ray Mick Somewhere in Kansas "The older I get the faster I was" 72 Javelin/AMX 72 Javelin R/W/B SST 71 Javelin See my Javelin @ http://community.webshots.com/album/54361408pRyvWE My RWB Javelin@ http://members.cox.net/jvlnnut/Site/My%20Space.html Mid America AMC www.midamericaamc.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Shipping the Hood To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060903161128.14905.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, don't laugh but I have used Greyhound package express to ship one Gremlin door and two Rambler Classic fenders to separate buyers in the last few months. All items arrived OK, but I had to do the work to package them correctly. I used hot water pipe insulation foam for all the sharp edges and covered the flat surfaces with cardboard bound by copious amounts of packing tape or duct tape. Gonna be shipping a Javelin door this week the same way. I think a Gremlin hood will meet the dimension limits of Greyhound, but to be sure, go to their website and check the info there. The buyer has to be willing to pick up the item at the arriving terminal. I have used DHL, which has more generous dimension limits to ship a front clip which was about seven feet long, packaged. It was more of a hassle (finding a terminal etc.) but the package arrived safely. Joe Fulton Salinas, CA ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:16:37 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] shipping a hood To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <008901c6cf80$a06b2de0$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian, if it is that close to you, it would be in best interest to go pick it up. I shipped a 70 Javelin hood from Houston to Los Angeles a few months ago, and shipping was $480. The company would later reduce it to around $200 as the buyer, who paid shipping costs, was a good customer. Regardless, with fuel prices high, many shippers are tacking 'fuel surcharges' onto larger items like hoods, fenders, and what not. I just sent a pair of fenders, this time by FedEx up to Rick Johnson in MA, shipping was $93 for the set, not bad, and I used a furniture box. If you have any furniture places in your area, or exexcise equipment places near you, go dig thru trash as you will find some really good sturdy boxes. On the hood, I used bubble wrap around all corners, and places thin foam on front outside of hood. Then I cut the box to fit the hood, using lots of tape, so it conforms to the hood itself. Never have had one damaged. Possibly cheapest way to ship it is FedEx, then UPS. Greyhoud is a possibility but a pain in the ass. Good luck, Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Email is currently HEAVY 5-12 day reply times, call if important ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:24:22 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all AMC model names To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <008a01c6cf80$a0a92140$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thsnks Frank for the list. And as Stu asked: Frank I assume you have US only info here? Otherwise there would be Argentinean Torino And Australian Rambler Javelins Rambler Hornets & Rambler Matadors Maybe Mexican names as well Oh Yeah the American in Iran was a Shaheen I have a NOS nametag for one of them :) Stu Without going off topic, maybe that American in Iran the nameplates would now be called Infidel? I would like a nameplate for that! On the Mexican cars, you had all sorts of them like Lerma, Llanero, Rallye, American, AMX, to name a few that come to mind. Here are two sites, one is Bob Wilson's on Arcticboy: http://www.arcticboy.com/Pages/arcticboysvam.html the other off my own site dealing with VAM: http://www.clubramblermexico.8m.net/ and more on Argentina Torinos: http://torino.s5.com/ Speaking of which, I have been trying to help a fellow AMcer in argentina who has a 1981 Pacer, he needs a grill, taillights and front amber turn lights also if anyone has them, look the same for all Pacers I guess. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Email is currently HEAVY 5-12 day reply times, call if important ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:07:53 -0400 (EDT) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all AMC models names To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200609031807.k83I7r923762@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " From: "amckiwi" <amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " " Oh Yeah the American in Iran was a Shaheen i have heard two names, shaheen and arya [aria?]. i don't know what, if anything, distinguishes them. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:58:53 -0400 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Blown Pacer To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <14134-44FB33FD-1618@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Personally I don't see really anything wrong with the car except the brand "X" engine. With a blown AMC 401 and some nice wheels and some detailing it could be a nice car. The boy's at NAMDRA I am sure would agree with me. Pacer's were never my thing but it is still a savable AMC with the right engine. The chopped top is hardly noticeable and in my opinion makes the car look less boxy. "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:44:16 -0400 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] =milnersXcoupe= To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <44FB1470.24510.2081E21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sunday, September 3, 2006 12:16 PM From: eddiestakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Brian, if it is that close to you, it would be in best interest to go pick it up. I shipped a 70 Javelin hood from Houston to Los Angeles a few months ago, and shipping was $480. I just sent a pair of fenders, this time by FedEx up to Rick Johnson in MA, shipping was $93 for the set, not bad, and I used a furniture box. Possibly cheapest way to ship it is FedEx, then UPS. Greyhoud is a possibility but a pain in the ass. Good luck, Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 === === Thanks ! Road Trip it is then - Cherokee gets new Alt. / Serp Belt / Muff / EFinjector seals / O2 sensor / Oil / front springs next week - should be good for a Max Effort to Ct. > radio is on the 'Fritz' ...... bummer ....... . Bought the Nose off an '89 Dodge Daytona - in Red - has the Factory Air Dam & driving lights & Turbo 'Blister' Hood, both fenders , front 'Nose' facia & hide away headlamps > 'clean' . Hood is wider than the Eagle - will grind the circumferences of the Daytona hood - remove it from that frame & mount it to the Eagle hood frame, sounds easy.....Right ? ;) luck has it as a neighbours is a retired Shop Teacher - recently built a Beach Boys replica '32 Deuce - has an English Wheel metal shaper machine too - his Wife runs around in a 'Spyder' Turbo Corvair .... Should be interesting ! The 6spd. 2004 Lexus LS430 Trans ships out from Detroit next Saturday - goes to New Jersey : www.importperformancetrans.com - or - www.IPT.com > great shop, check it out on the .net . John will go thru the Trans. - has some Mods to make it live behind the LL8 : http://tinyurl.com/qhjwt Travis is doing the 'Ground Breaking' for the Turbo on this engine - with STOCK internals he's projecting 450HP - and being the engine is around 400lbs. > I can just unlatch the 'Fun in the Sun' sun-roof - punch the accelerator & the Sun-roof will open by itself ;) [ while the Uni-Body emulates spaghetti 'Os' ] ............ I know ........ but hey, first Eagle Kammback I'd ever seen had an 'ooozing' GM 4cyl. under the bonnet & this '6' version is 290HP Stock ! The guys on Strokers.com bench raced a 'concept engine' for the next Generation 'JEEP' I-6 to replace the 4.0 > end result was the LL8 - so an 'Tissue' apology won't be forthcoming anytime soon.......> One GM Original Intent for the DOHC LL8 was the CORVETTE - harking back to the 'Blue Flame Six' of the '53 - '55 'Vette - thankfully, they went into Delivery Vans & SUV Blimps. Next consideration is the IRS - and as the Kammback has a short wheelbase, weight matters alot > I swapped ends in a '64 Porsche once - once is enough ! http://www.fi-r.net/images2/TurboTrailblazerBurnout.wmv Burnout sound isn't impressive [SUV Blimp] - sounds like the 1-2 shift is goofy, but it pulls nicely once underway. OK - .............that's 'True Confessions' > I've air-nailed sheet plywood over my windows & the Post Office will be holding all deliveries until checked for Anthrax ! milnersXcoupe NEW YORK ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:22:40 -0700 From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Blown Pacer To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <000201c6cfa7$7c331b50$45dd0d82@john1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SNIP <http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/202381294.html> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/202381294.html It's sad what some people do to cars. SNIP At face value I don't see what is so sad about this. An enthusiast has taken an AMC product as a base, modified it to his particular desires and is offering it for sale at a price that is 4 times or better of what a stock one would go for on e-bay. Depending on what the rest of the car looks like it looks like a good deal if you like bazaar street racers. Seems to me this type of thing at this time may deserve stepping back and taking another good look as to re-evaluating the benefits of expanding out the definition of an AMC hobby! If I had to guess on this one there stands a good chance he will get his money out of it. John ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:12:35 -0400 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Blown Pacer To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <44FB3733.23207.28FE876@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sunday, September 3, 2006 01:12 AM From: Jim B <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/202381294.html It's sad what some people do to cars. __________________________________________________________ hell NO @! that Top Chop alone is worth the price of entry - given the car is Tubbed with a 9" and a 350 trans. 'modded' > damn that is a very good price ! I wouldn't want the Engine - way too 'Old School' 'jimmy' blower can't see a thing lump - I'd find a lighter 'healthy' something & a www.mjmturbos.com 'squeezer' for a 'streetable' combination - a very hip ride for the AMC 'Purist-tisimo' ;) Brien Tourville NEW YORK ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] 63 Rambler - Runs To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060904005328.24108.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have been having some fun with the 63 Rambler American hardtop this weekend. I need to get the car running so it is easy to move in and out of my driveway and would not be blocking other cars. In a perfect world, this car can be a replacement daily driver to replace the 1980 Spirit that I finally sold last week. I was intially surprised that the car ran when I brought it home. The last license sticker was 1990 but that sticker was on new CA replacement plates (which I found in the trunk) so I don't know if the car was actually on the road in 1990. There appeared to be fresh oil in the crankcase (amber color, not black) and it had a new air cleaner element and new tires all the way around. It ran but there was a coolant leak in the "crossover" pipe which runs under the exhaust manifold back to the heater core inlet on the firewall. I had to block off that opening for now, until I have time to remove the obstructions and replace that pipe. After getting it running, I found that the carb needs a rebuild because of the faulty accelerator pump. Friday I gave up on the existing WCD carburetor and decided to use another spare WCD which was in the trunk of the car, along with several other spare parts. I had a little trouble removing the old carb because the manifold studs were left almost too long and getting access to the nuts was difficult on one side. After degreasing the exterior of the replacement carb yesterday and installing it, the car started and ran better and most importantly it didn't stall on acceleration like it did with the old carb. I had ruined the carb to manifold gasket when I installed the new carb so I made a new one out of rather thin gasket paper. I could tell I had some vacuum leaks at the end of the day, which prevented a good smooth idle. Today, I used some RTV around the base of the carb as a temporary measure until I could make a better gasket and I reset the idle mixture to account for the better vacuum. The result was a factory smooth steady idle. Next step was to try to feed gas from the gas tank instead of an auxilliary can. I put a few gallons of gas in the tank along with some carb cleaner and found out the fuel pump would not deliver fuel from the tank. So I emptied the gas tank of the old gas and dropped it down to have a look. Lots of varnish but not much rust, from what I can see. The sender unit was all gunked up and had no sock filter on the end, allowing the suction pipe to be full of old varnish and dirt. I have a replacement sender unit (also from the trunk of that car) and plan to put it in tomorrow after cleaning the tank. Hope to be on the road by tomorrow at noon. I always enjoy waking one of these old cars from the dead, and this one has been fun so far to work with. I did spot some corrosion in the unibody structure almost directly underneath the front suspension. I think the area can be patched fairly easily. If I get it running dependably tomorrow I'll start cleaning the interior and other appearance items. Joe Fulton Salinas CA ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 **************************************