Re: [AMC-List] Mustang II Suspension?

[Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Just to toss a little more fuel on the fire.
If your thinking [not you personally Frank anyone in general] of placing a complete front suspension such as a Mustang II in any of these car how about stepping up to a "real" sports car front suspension that looks to be fairly closely priced to Mustang II componenets and be true to the handling theme from the get go.
What is he thinking of you ask? Well. I'll tell you 84-87 Corvette!
It actually appears to be a more complete assembly form the get go. Used assemblys go for $1000 or less complete, rebuild kits $6-700 or less, rebuilt racks [if needed] $500, Coil overs $3-400. Now none of this is going to be "cheaper" then a MII, but. It is all true sports car design. Now I know track width is close enough to work and this info is easy to find. I've not found the width of the factory crossmember of other pertinant info. Part of th ereason I've posted this is to see who out there may know more about this suspension. My web searches have left me curious and have not been 100% informative. Anyway back to the rambling.
  Way more bling factory. Especially if done right come resell time.
What's going to look better on the build sheet? Mustang II or CORVETTE!
  Weel, now I'll just run right out and buyone and get started! I should have this done by Tuesday, busted arm and all!!! Bwah, haw,haw,haw, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! Soundof footsteps running down long padded hallway, followed by several men with a straight jacket and syringes full of antiPsychotic drugs :]]]]
Have a great AMC day!!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 
> I'm not going to quote any of John Elle's last post -- it is a "must
> read" if you've seriously considered a Mustang II front end though. His
> and the one I posted that prompted it as well. I think the two of us
> covered everything rather thoroughly. 
> 
> Most people consider using something like a MII front suspension to get
> rid of the trunnions. I think everyone with a real knowledge of trunnion
> suspsnesions has pointed out that a modern rebuild will eliminate all
> the problems. The biggest "problem" most people have with their
> trunnions is that they are 36+ years old and worn out. Nothing lasts
> forever, even ball joints need to be replaced after that span of time! 
> 
> If you really want to get rid of the trunnion, there is an easier way.
> Get the steering knuckle and upper arm from a 70+ car. Cut the end of
> the upper arm off just behind the spring seat. Cut the original upper
> arms so that they intersect the 70+ section the correct distance away
> from the body (center of ball joint should be the center of the knuckle
> position in the trunnion. Weld the two together. Better yet, get some
> threaded tubing and some urethane bushed rod ends that pivot on the end
> and weld those on. Or even better, fabricate a new upper arm. A lot of
> people will cry "nay!" to welding on the suspension, but as long as it's
> done properly anything can be welded. Might be best to take to a
> professional rather than DIY though. Fabricated MII arms are all welded
> together -- either by machine or a pro. While you're at it, get one of
> the MII strut rod eliminator kits that bolt in place of the original arm
> and have a weld on pivot point as John suggested. Don't even think about
> one that straddles the crossmember -- the AMC crossmember won't take
> that any more than the original MII will. Keep the AMC lower crossmember
> and arm. 
> 
> All that will still cost 2-3 times what replacing the trunnions with
> urethane bushed ones, and there won't be any real gain, but "thaose
> hated trunnions" will be gone. It's your money -- bring the car to SC
> and my shop in about two years, I'll be all set up and ready to do the
> work by then!
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