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Today's Topics:
1. 1977 EGR numbers (JOE FULTON)
2. Re: My Tail Light Expense (Mark Price)
3. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
(msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
4. Re: Driver Train Chatter (Tom Jennings)
5. Re: Driver Train Chatter (Sandwich Maker)
6. Re: Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights (Tom Jennings)
7. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend... (Mark Price)
8. Re: Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights (Sandwich Maker)
9. Re: auto transport (Justin Shelton)
10. Auto transport- dually w/ open trailer available in
Chicagoland area (hal.lynch@xxxxxxx)
11. anyone near Sheppton, Pa? (Mark Price)
12. Flare Kit (mike)
13. 401 surging (russ hathaway)
14. Re: 401 surging (Kim Bueler)
15. Re: 401 surging (Mark Price)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:49:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1977 EGR numbers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Can someone provide the AMC or vendor part numbers for
the 1977 EGR valve? The application is a 1977 258
2-bbl. The numbers should be in the emissions section
of the 1977 TSM. Unfortunately, that year AMC divided
the TSM into separate sections for body, chassis,
powerplant and I don't have the powerplant book.
My EGR is an aftermarket unit and I am replacing it.
It doesn't have any reference number on it and I need
to configure the new EGR valve the match the original
valve.
Thanks in advance.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 8:50:16 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Tail Light Expense
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx>
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Yep, sometimes you just gotta go for it.
I max bid $145. on my 4 disc CD changer in my Dakota.
The winning bid was $76! Boy was I happy! I also just spent $297 to buy the D&D 2.95 geared trans and input shaft that needs a cluster. I could get a real piece of crap. I won'tknow for sure untill Friday when FedEx is supposed to drop it off. I've got my fingers crossed.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sometimes when you need a part you just have to suck it up and pay the
> price. I have had to do it a couple of times on my orange Hornet in the
> last 2 1/2 years. Some times hesitating on a part because of price you
> loose your chance because there is always the chance another one will
> not show up anytime soon. I won a NOS round Hornet bee emblem and chrome
> Hornet emblem used on hoods of 73 Hornets For 45$ including shipping,
> good luck on my parts but I had a larger amount already bid to offset
> being out bid in the last minuet or so. It ternes out I won by 1.00$
> over the next bidder. He E-Mailed me seeming upset he lost but said he
> was glad it was going to an AMC man, eh say what? What did he think I
> was going to do drill a hole in it and attach a chain and wear it around
> my neck? I put the bee on my yellow Hornet and sold the chrome Hornet
> emblem for 20$. A few weeks later there was just a round NOS bee for
> sale on eBay. This one went for 95$ and the same guy I out bid by 1.00$
> lost out on this one by 1.00$. I could only imagine what he was calling
> me.
> "Doc"
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:51:44 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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No offense taken and I wasn't trying to be offinsive either. Just didn't get what he was saying at all. Lol...
Yeah, its all old-school stuff. My interest in it was merely the motor and I thought the Jeep was going to be much more of a shitbox than it is. I think its probably project-worthy, which sucks since I wanted to take the motor out and save it. I do have a friend with an affinity for old Waggies that is already asking me about it, so I suppose he could drop in a newer FSJ 360 with factory parts if he wasn't concerned with being correct. I have like 3 complete FSJ 360's with full accessories sitting around. It would also somve my titleproblem, as it would then be his problem. Lol...
-Spro
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Ole Bart means well, but yes wrong era, Does the rig have the closed knuckle two
> football field turn radius Then? What the H#!! did they think those things would
> accomplish? Three point turn? who needs'em, better make it thirty points! :]
> Jim Blair can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about the old Jeeps.
> unless he left it behind while he was moving AGAIN!
> OOPS, Now I've went and been not nice to everyone! Geez , Shut my mouth!
> No harm intended!
> :] LOL
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
>
>
> ---- msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Disclaimer: I am not trying to be a jerk with this reply.
> >
> > You are completely thinking in the wrong decade. It has a D27 front and what
> looks like a D53 rear and its really not suitable for wheeling, as the entire
> drivetrain would have to be replaced for me to have any confidence in it doing
> anything off the pavement and returning home under its own power. I'd rather
> break newer, common parts than the older unobtanium. I wouldn't feel comfotable
> wheeling a heavy rig like that on D44's, even.
> >
> > I don't know what "35's" you're referring to. Dana 35's? FSJ's never used
> D35's. They used a D30 front from 71-73.
> >
> > -Spro
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > Nice score.since its in ok shape,I;d lift her up with a reverse springs kit
> > > thats if thier Dana 44's front and back and not the crap 35's buy some cheap
> > > white spoke rims and used Hummer tires as their dirt cheap if thier
> available at
> > > your local heavy duty tuck tire place.
> > > Bart
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Driver Train Chatter
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> My first impression would be to stop backing it up or driving it till you have or do the pan and fluid and have the bands adjusted.
> I personally would go get my dad and get him to help me as he is 75 next month and rebuilt these for years. I know that band adjustment can be very finicky and years of gunk and road trash can make it something best left to the experts.
One thing you can do though is make dead-sure the fluid level
is correct, in Neutral, not Park. They're fine transmissions,
but very fussy about fluid level.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:23:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Driver Train Chatter
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607121623.k6CGNj825891@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" Look for an oldtime trans shop or a Volvo dealer or repair shop and
" tell them its a Borg Warner and you would like to get the bands
" adjusted and the fluid changed. Volvo used the same basic trans for
" years. also someone who is comfortable rebuilding FMX trans should be
" able to do it properly.
excellent advice. i lucked into just such a person when my marlin
needed work, and i didn't have to tell him twice. he not only knew
what i was talking about, he had all the parts - including tweaks - on
the shelf, as he'd done the post office jeeps for years.
bmw and others also used aluminum warners for many years, but volvo
may be friendlier as they currently use the aisin-warner aw4 [=jeep]
in rwd cars.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:06:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Mr. AMC wrote:
> Do the halogen sealed beams draw any more amperage than regular sealed
> beams? I don't want to cook the wiring. Also do they become hotter than
> regular sealed beams. I have plastic headlight doors in my orange Hornet
> and I don't want to melt or warp them. I have never use them so these
> questions may seem stupid but I had to ask.
I don't think they draw any more current, or get hotter, than
the old ones. They use a really hot filament inside a bulb
(inside the sealed housing) that contains a gas that slows
the burnout of the filament. I run them exclusively, and in
plastic-grilled cars (75 Gremlin) absolutely no problem.
I now run removable-bulb type headlamps (H4 bulbs I think).
Cibie makes good reflectors; you can get equiv. reflectors from
Summit. About $40/side for 8". Good ones have a half-moon light
pattern that puts all the light on the road, not in drivers
eyes. 55W lamps (more current) and I run relays and short, fat
wiring to the battery. Both the 63 Rambler and the Hornet. (In
the Rambler, the old headlight switch burned up, I had to rebuid
the contacts myself (desktop surgery) and ran relays to take the
load of the senile switch. That all happened before the Cibies.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 9:44:54 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
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I know what you mean about the 327.
The one I have for my Ambassador is a 68 Vigilante 327, 37,000 original miles!
I paid $280 for it the Turbo 400 and the Dana 20? tranfer case and drove 10 hours round trip to get it! It all came out of a dealership plow Jeep that the rest of the Jeep rotted away due to salt and sitting all summer in a field! Inside of the engine is spotless! The guy who put it up on eBay was ticked when it only went to $280, but he didn't put a reserve on it! It was already out and ready to go when I got there to pick it up too! :]
Take it out of the Jeep and give the rest to your friend.
Let him deicde what he wants to do with it. Unless he is into restorations he'll pull the entire driveline and replace it with something more trail worthy anyway! Thosed closed knuckle front axles are useless on the trails, Turn radius is huge!
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607121646.k6CGkcO26100@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
"
" Do the halogen sealed beams draw any more amperage than regular sealed
" beams? I don't want to cook the wiring. Also do they become hotter than
" regular sealed beams. I have plastic headlight doors in my orange Hornet
" and I don't want to melt or warp them. I have never use them so these
" questions may seem stupid but I had to ask.
by law headlights are supposed to be 55w or 60w max, regardless of
bulb type. [xenon projectors are supposed to be 35w, which imho is
still too much] sealed beam halogens would be fine and might even run
microscopically cooler, since they radiate more of their power as
light. there are enhanced halogens that work afaik by coating the
lens with a heat mirror, trapping the radiant heat and letting them
run a 75w filament - with its light output - on 55w. i would expect
these to be hotter since they can't radiate as much heat away and must
conduct it.
replaceable halogen bulbs can be had in several higher powers - 80w,
100w, 130w - but while you may get away with them it isn't strictly
legal.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Justin Shelton <justinshelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] auto transport
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Dan:
I posted here about 2 months back asking about auto
transport. I had never had a car hauled before, so
went into it pretty clueless.
My experience was bad. I put a bid out to like 10
different companies and their prices ranged from a low
of $750 to a high of about $1150 to move a car from
San Luis Obsispo, CA, to Chicago. I went with a
comapany called Cosmin, they bid about $900 and swore
that the car would not be moved off and on different
trailers as it wound its way Cross Country. I was
flexible on shipping date, just needed the car moved
in the next two months, or by June 30.
Well, these folks pretty much d*cked around and could
never seem to schedule the car for pick up, and to
make matters more irritating, they never contacted me,
I always (politely) contacted them for updates. After
about six weeks they told me that just couldn't seem
to get anyone to pick the car up in SLO, and would I
possibly get it down to LA for them???? Ha ha ha!
What the hell am I contacting a shipper for if I was
physically there to move a running/driving car???
Anyway, I pretty much gave up on them then and have
made a solemn vow to let anyone who asks about car
shipping to NOT do business with this Cosmin company.
Incidentally, I still do not have the car here, but it
is at a friend-of-a-friend's house near Monterey, CA.
I am having the car brought to me by a friend next
time he comes from California to Illinois, probably in
mid-August, and I'll pay only about $500 to get it.
I guess things always do work out in the end, just not
necessarily how we want . . . .
- Justin
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:32:56 +0000
> From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] auto transport
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> A while back there was talk about having a car
> shipped and the good price
> the party got on the shipping. I was wondering who
> the hauler was and a
> contact number if possible.
>
> Thanks all
> Dan Whitehead
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:02:33 +0000
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Auto transport- dually w/ open trailer available
in Chicagoland area
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On the topic of auto transport, finding a service that can assist you with minimal 'dead head' miles is important. For anyone in the hobby in the Chicago area, I've got a dually one ton diesel pickup and a full deck open trailer to help out anyone in the area. Just save my eamil address if you may need a car transported in this area. I'm only 15 miles from Kenosha
Hal
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:02:30 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] anyone near Sheppton, Pa?
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I may have found a rear axle it's up near east Central Pa and I'm waiting for the guy to get back to me on the width of it. He doesn't know if it is for a two or four wheel drive!
He is supposed to get back to me about possibly shipping it and the width.
I may use it as an excuse tofinally pick some parts I have scattered over that way, but thought I'd like to get it in the hands of someone I know first :]
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:40:15 -0400
From: "mike" <rmns10910@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Flare Kit
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Some one was hunting a chin spoiler and drivers rear flare...you still out there?
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 401 surging
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Is a gas tank sock really needed? When I repaced the
tank in my Hornet, the sock was almost gone. I tore it
off, cleaned all the residue and installed it with an
open end. I am running a cheapo filter just off the
tank, then the fuel pump and a nice filter just before
the engine. The mechanical pump has been stripped and
is just plugging a hole. Isn't the sock just a
strainer anyways.......Russ
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:45:54 -0400
From: "Kim Bueler" <kimbueler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 surging
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I just had a NOS fuel sending unit installed on my Gremlin and the mechanic
at the time insisted I find a new sock for it. I spoke with Jim Robertson up
here who supplies many AMC parts and he told me to abandon the idea of the
sock and replace it with a GOOD inline fuel filter. Replace the filter every
5 years or so (his words). He has not had a problem with any replacements to
date, so that is what I did, seems to be ok for now.
Regards,
Kim Bueler ' 75 Gremlin X 360 V8
----- Original Message -----
From: "russ hathaway" <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:17 PM
Subject: [AMC-List] 401 surging
> Is a gas tank sock really needed? When I repaced the
> tank in my Hornet, the sock was almost gone. I tore it
> off, cleaned all the residue and installed it with an
> open end. I am running a cheapo filter just off the
> tank, then the fuel pump and a nice filter just before
> the engine. The mechanical pump has been stripped and
> is just plugging a hole. Isn't the sock just a
> strainer anyways.......Russ
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:53:12 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 surging
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
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Yep. just a strainer is all it is.
We would occasionally on FSJ's that plugged a sock just take a air hose and Blow the sock off with air pressure. The tanks are a bear on some of those to get off.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is a gas tank sock really needed? When I repaced the
> tank in my Hornet, the sock was almost gone. I tore it
> off, cleaned all the residue and installed it with an
> open end. I am running a cheapo filter just off the
> tank, then the fuel pump and a nice filter just before
> the engine. The mechanical pump has been stripped and
> is just plugging a hole. Isn't the sock just a
> strainer anyways.......Russ
>
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