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Today's Topics:
1. 1966 Rambler American video on YouTube.com... (Jerry Casper)
2. Re: Idiot light on when charging (Matt Haas)
3. Dayton AMO Nats Pics (Ron)
4. Re: 1:16 Pacer Remote Control (Glen Hoag)
5. - 1:16 RC Pacers - 'how tight is that wad anyway' ? -
(Brien Tourville)
6. Hubba Hubba Gremlin (JOE FULTON)
7. Hubba Hubba Gremlin > Why? (Mr. AMC)
8. Re: My Hubba Hubba Gremlin (JOE FULTON)
9. Re: IMPORTANT FOR YAHOO, HOTMAIL, and ALL USERS! (Jim Blair)
10. Fw: 258 header (Eddie Stakes)
11. Fw: Suspension/brakes upgrades wanted (Eddie Stakes)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1966 Rambler American video on YouTube.com...
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I got to take a ride ( finally! ) in my friend John
Young's triple-webber powered '66 American ragtop
yesterday, he spent about an hour or so tuning the
carbs, and they're still not quite right ( old tech,
yee-haw ), but it sure sounded and ran good when he
got it about right. He's been out in CA for two years
on a contract job, he's back in Virginia now, and will
be looking for a home soon. His other vehicle is a
Jeep XJ, that's in the background, and you can see my
Pacer ( still needing leaf spring reattached ) in the
video.
To view it, just go to WWW.YouTube.com, and search
on either member Gremlingts or 1966 Rambler, and you
should find it easily enough. The microphone isn't the
best, but you get the general impression.
Jerry Casper
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:02:03 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Idiot light on when charging
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Bryan,
If the warning light comes on when then #1 terminal (this is either brown
or white on GM cars, not sure what color AMC used) on the alternator is
grounded (make sure you unplug the connector from the alternator before
grounding) and the ignition is on, the alternator is bad. If the light
doesn't come on, either the bulb is bad or the circuit is open. Since you
can rev the car and get the light to come on, the problem is likely the
alternator is bad.
Matt
At 10:39 PM 7/26/2006 -0600, you wrote:
> 1981 Eagle SX/4. 258 4spd. and 1979 Concord 258 Auto.
> Both cars are using GM style alternators.
>
> The 1979 Concord. Turn the key to the on position the idiot light
> (IL) is off.
> Start the car and the IL is off. Alternator is not charging.
> (Pulled the posivtive cable off and the car dies.) I rev the engine to
> about 1500rpm the IL comes on
> and the system is charging. As long as the IL is lit the system
> Charges.
> The orange and red small wires are hooked up to the alternator.
>
> The Eagle SX/4 is essentialy the same except I have to Rev the
> Engine around 2500 RPM to bring the IL on.
>
> The concord was sitting for a while and then the symtons happened
> upon start up.
> The SX/4 was Sitting for about a year. When first started about 3
> weeks ago
> The charging worked fine. Last week The IL problem surfaced.
> There is some corrosion present in the Fuse block.
>
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> Bryan
>
> Back to top
mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 8:43:44 -0700
From: Ron <1970javelin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Dayton AMO Nats Pics
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A " H U G E" thanks to my SoCal AMX brother Mark Melvin for taking the pics. What a great double nickel Birthday present Mark gave me!!
He said there were OVER 300 cars there!
He knew how painful it was for me not to make it to the show -especially since it was where I grew up and cruised with my TA Javelin & 70 AMX back "In the Day"
Here are the links: E N J O Y
http://picasaweb.google.com/mightypilot/06AMONational
Mark said he took sooooo many pics they wouldn't fit in one gallery-I believe it!
http://picasaweb.google.com/mightypilot/06AMONatAmericanCup
I'm making plans for Denver 07 for sure!
Ron Akerman
70 Donohue
74 Hornet Hatchback Project
Gold Hill, OR
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:04:16 -0500
From: Glen Hoag <hoag@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1:16 Pacer Remote Control
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Nolan,
[For those who are joining us in mid-conversation, I posted on the
Pacer list that I had found Motormax "Fresh Cherries" RC blue and
yellow Pacers in 1:16 and a larger size with both a blue Pacer and a
green Gremlin at my local WalMart in Athens, AL.]
Nolan,
The scale of the larger car isn't listed on the box; it looks about
twice as long as the 1:16 car, which would make it about 1:8 or 1:10.
I couldn't find any reference to the large ones on the Motormax web
site <http://www.motormax.com>, but they have a forum on HobbyTalk
<http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/forumdisplay.php?f=225> where this a
mention of them.
I wouldn't mind picking up one of the large ones when they hit the
discount rack.
--Glen
>Glenn
>
>The Rohnert Park, Ca Wal-Mart sold me a 1:16 yellow remote controlled Pacer
>for $19.97. Now they have discounted this model to $9.95 and the last time I
>was there had two left out of an initial 10. "Just how large" is this $49.97
>model ???
>
>nolan dehner
>Nor Cal AMCs
>75 Pacer D/L
>76 Pacer Standard
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Limestone County, Alabama '77 Pacer 258 (for kids)
'80 Pacer 258 DL wagon
'81 Concord DL 258
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:46:57 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] - 1:16 RC Pacers - 'how tight is that wad anyway'
? -
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yeaoww.....
Christ nolan @! >get a revelation - "Rambler Mentality" >??
?
OK ay - Lets' do the Numbers:
$49.97 ea. down to less than a 20 skid
for the last pair of 1:16 Radio Controled Pacer
models > still in the shrink wrap >?!
perhaps 2 mos. - the price Might go down -
..... ?.......
20 wouldn't cover the cost of taking a Taxi to
Wal-Marts >..............
just a suggestion, .... grab your keys &
that Nash-Kelvinator era Bill Fold
you keep in the Beer Cooler > ;)
but.... ....- > take the car with the less expensive...........
......'Perfume'd Gasoline' in the tank,.....
.... "By All Means''.. @~~! .......x :)
milnersXcoupe
NEW YORK
== ==
Glenn
The Rohnert Park, Ca Wal-Mart sold me a 1:16 yellow remote
controlled
Pacer for $19.97. Now they have discounted this model to $9.95 and
the
last time I was there had two left out of an initial 10. "Just how
large"
is this $49.97 model ???
nolan dehner
Nor Cal AMCs
75 Pacer D/L
76 Pacer Standard
Brien Tourville
NEW YORK
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:32:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Hubba Hubba Gremlin
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Well, for those of you who care, I pulled the rear hub
on the Gremlin in order to replace the broken lug
stud. The studs are 1 7/8-in long and a new stud
would have fit into the hole from the rear of the hub,
but I wasn't prepared to swage it into place like Tom
J. suggested. Besides I have a hub puller and shop
press, so I just decided to bite the bullet and pull
the hub. It took my five pound long handled sledge
pounding on the hub puller "handle", but I got it off
with no trauma to the car. I used my Mexican torque
wrench (216 pound body on an 18-inch extension) to
torque the hub nut back into place.
The car needs new rear shoes too, so I got those at
Kragens. They amazingly had those in stock. I took
the drums to Midas down the street to have them turned
and they were almost out of limits (10.060 limit) and
the "tech" refused to put the Midas touch on them. I
have a 77 Hornet AMX I am parting out which could
supply drums I think, but decided that new drums would
be better so I ordered them from rockauto.com. Not
cheap but they'll be here in three days.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:07:04 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Hubba Hubba Gremlin > Why?
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The method suggested without removing the hub has been used on all
brands of cars for more years than I am alive (60 in sept) As a
professional mechanic I have used it for almost 40 years with out one
problem. Just recently on my orange Hornet 2 years ago. You wasted your
time and still need to torque the nut properly. Not torqueing the nut
properly will come back to haunt you unless you have the finesse of my
father. He was an old mechanic, German trained and came to this country
in 1932 at the age of 18. He could torque a head bolt with a breaker bar
and challenge anyone to see it he was off. It never was off. He used a
3/4" drive socket & ratchet and a 3 foot piece of pipe to torque his
axel nuts. I watched him do it. Have the axel nut properly torqued. And
if you took it apart this far, did put new wheel bearings and seals in
it. You were right there. More work needed than for a simple 5 minute
repair and once it was apart the Rambler mentality took hold. Sorry if I
seem hard but I have seen this type of thing all my life.
"Doc"
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Hubba Hubba Gremlin
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Doc,
Have you ever heard the phrase: If it ain't broke
don't fix it?"
That's why I didn't pull the axle when I had the hub
off. There was no sign of leakage from the seal and I
haven't driven the car yet to know if there was any
unusual noise in the rearend. I'm just trying to put
this car back on the road in a safe dependable
condition, not restore it. I do believe in replacing
high wear items if I have a unit apart, but lots of
little Gremmies live their whole life without needing
rear axle seals or wheel bearings. Besides it's only
a 258 auto. I'm not gonna race it.
I did buy new brake drums after all. No Rambler
mentality here. I could have reused the existing
drums since they weren't "at" limits yet. I have put
in new door hinge busshing, new shocks and have new
brake hoses to go on. The engine room has all new
hoses. So much for this kind of thing.
As for pulling the hub, like I said, I have a hub
puller and a shop press so it was no big deal except
for the force required to get the hub off. The rist
hub I pulled was on my Pacer and it was disconcerting
because I didn't realize just how much force you have
to apply. I kept using a bigger hammer until I got
the job done. But big hammers have gotten me into
trouble before and I was leary.
As for torgueing the nut. Your comments are noted. I
plan to do that, but 1.5 (18 inches) x 216 pounds
equals 324 pounds of torque applied already. I was
standing on the extension. There's lots of truck
shops in Salinas though who I'm sure have the proper
torque wrench so I'll stop soon and have it torqued.
The car is not running yet and besides I don't have
the proper torque wrench.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:07:28 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] IMPORTANT FOR YAHOO, HOTMAIL, and ALL USERS!
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Subject: [AMC-List] IMPORTANT FOR YAHOO, HOTMAIL, and ALL USERS!
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:14:46 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 258 header
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Ray would like to know about a header for a 258 in his Hornet. Anyone have
any ideas or have done this please feel free to contact him or reply here,
be sure if you reply here to copy your reply to him also and thanks in
advance to all who may.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray crossno" <carrera_rc7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: 258 header
> Hi, my name is Ray and I have a question about a 258 header. I have a '71
> amc hornet, and I have a offy intake with a 4 barrel on it. So I wanted to
> find a header to put on it, but no one sells one to go on a hornet. There
> is a jeep 258 header but will it fit on a hornet past the mounting flange?
> I have called hedman, hooker, pace setter, jegs, and summit, but no one
> knows if it will fit. Any help is very much appreciated. E-MAIL is
> carrera_rc7@xxxxxxxxxxx, thanks.
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:15:07 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Suspension/brakes upgrades wanted
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Miguel is having a tough time with his brakes and suspension and would like to upgrade it possibly. I know frank Swygert of AIM magazine has done some upgrades like this and if anyone wishes to chime in, please feel free to and also copy your reply to Miguel who would appreciate it, thanks in advance to all who might reply.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Yetman blackbirds20@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Suspension/brakes
Hello I wanted to know if you had any suspension or brake upgrades for an **1961** rambler classic? If you dont can you possible point me in the right direction. I having a hard time finding any aftermarket parts for this car. So any bit of infomation you can give me would be great.
Also can you help me on finding infomation on the rambler? I have litteraly spent hours infront of my laptop with no avail.
Thanks a lot
Miguel
Miguel
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