" From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx> " " ------------------ " Andrew Hay wrote: " > " > the outer rectangle sounds like a ford toploader pattern, interesting " > since they didn't start using the t150 until the next year. " " ------>This little '74 Gremlin also has '75 paint(G9), " and was originally delivered with electronic ignition. " There were some problems with the ignition that the " original owners didn't remember, so they had it " changed back to standard points-type, which it is " using now. I figure both of these things have to do " with End-of-year. Was the electronic ignition optional " for '74? Also, no smog equipment but a vapor canister. " No EGR even. prestolite electronic was std. '75-7. it used a low voltage trigger signal and in those days before contact grease was plagued with connector problems. your car sounds like a '75 in all but vin#. " > the two middle holes sound like a t-18 pattern, combined " > with the top two. this confuses me a little, as i'd thought that " > the t-18s used in late-'70s cjs, the only ones with short inputs " > afaik, had ford bolt patterns, and that t-18s with the distinctive " > warner pattern all had long inputs... " " ------->The bell depth is 7", is that the short bell? " I seem to recall my '69 390 Javelin bell from 20 years " ago to be deeper. the t-15/t-10 bell was deeper. none of the others was. [nit: the t-86 and t-89 also had long inputs, but last used in '67] " > 6-bolt top cover? main case ~8.7" long? sounds " > like a t-14 to me. " " ------>Those features are just as stated. So where " does that leave us with Garrett's question, or my " eventual T-5 swap? That is DEFINITELY going to happen. garrett can use your t-14 if he can find the right output yoke. he can't use your bell on his early six and doesn't need it anyway. i don't think you can use it either, for a t5. you could tap the outer holes and enlarge the retainer hole to 4.85" and use it for a ford toploader or tremec 5sp, but for the t5 imho the easy way is to look for an original sr4/t4/t5 application. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought