OK, here's where I really get to let my ignorance shine. I just swapped in a 904 Torque Command auto in place of the three-speed in my 258 Gremlin. Everything ran just beautifully, but developed one hell of a leak on the 200+ mile maiden voyage. I pulled it all out again(a week after getting it back in), and replaced all the seals(I know, I know, should have done that before it went in). I noticed the drain plug on the torque converter was leaking, appeared to fit very loosely, as if stripped. So I bought a new torque converter, and put everything back in. Yesterday, I filled it up for the first time, got in, and... nothing. NOTHING at all. I even got out and checked the shifter linkage and the driveshaft just to make sure I didn't forget 'em somehow. Even pulled the inspection plate and made sure I remembered to bolt the converter to the drive plate. Figured I just overfilled it. So I pulled the pan and drained it out completely, and did it again, according to the 1973 TSM, as seen on "The Old Car Manual Project" site, http://www.tocmp.com Chrysler sources I have read give the same procedure. I've done this twice now since that time, and still no movement. I am convinced the throttle linkage and shifter linkage are adjusted correctly. I did adjust the bands as a matter of course while the trans was out of the car. I was very careful with this adjustment, but assuming I did it wrong, would THAT stop the transmission from moving the car? I have always been a manual transmission guy, and this kind of weirdness with automatics is a prime reason why. This car ran great, and I even drove it right into the spot where I did the R&R. Of course, I DID order the converter from Auto Zone(idiot that I am). Anybody ever have to exchange something this big from there? It was a special order, naturally. BTW, the transmission never got hot or was allowed to reach slipping stage during the limp-home process. The filter and pan were clean, with no metal or clutch debris. I really need to get Molly on the road, as my last drivable vehicle is the 84 1-ton Chevy camper van I use for a retriever(8-10 MPG hopefully). Of course, I COULD just use my son's 290 American /;] Ripping my beard out by the roots, mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com