From: farna@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: GM to cut 30,000 jobs, close 12 plants To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: On November 22, 2005 andrew hay wrote: > one of the plants they want to close - georgia - makes minivans. > back in the '90s they decided to invest in suv development, not > minivans, and now toyota and mopar are eating their lunch in this > segment. gm's reaction? Sometimes it's better to get out of one segment and concentrate on others where you do better. AMC should have stayed in the value/economy car segment with a few more upscale offerings based on the value/economy offerings (ala 63-64 Classic Ambassador) than try to compete with GM/Ford/Chryco with head to head offerings. They'd have been healthier through the 70s and there's a possibility they might still be with us, though it's doubtful they would have remained truly independant -- Renault would probably still be in there (I hate to say). At least they would have lasted longer. But all that's good ole hind sight! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Well...... if I had the capacity......... I'd have more GM stock options in a portfolio than that what's his name who recently block purchased some large % holdings. GM is moving toward outsourcing as most are. The market is beating down GM to flip it later once everyone is on-board. IF Washington gets the Lo-Sulphur fuel accepted by all States > GM can drop in Diesel powerplants into most of their existing model lines............... and this includes Hybrids > which they have at the ready > straight into those loving SUVs'. As to the Health - Medical - Retirement Benefit incurred, part of doing business at that time and they either made money then or not. I am not with the sons' of Bitches now calling to cut loose the Retirements & Medical Care of previous or current employees. "I ate my slice - now gimmie yours cause I'm low on dough" . That is theft greased with sleeze ethics - regardless of how it brightens up ones' stock standing via 'Creative Economics". I watch the CNBC presentors rail on about the costs of the Retired for GM while running comparisons between not having these and what current stock pricing is. Then the next week > I watch these same people suddenly sober as to their possible supporting and influence of having so many retired workers lose their health and retirements simply for a better stock rating - a position their pushing - ...... like telling the guy to "Jump - Jump you dumb shit - come 'on and Jump" .......... and then......... there is a corpse at their feet.......... 'A new American Corporate Sleeze Ethic' - as touted by American Press. Stock pricings change with each and every cataylist you can imagine....... politics - hurricanes - droughts - wars - maybe wars - elections etc. , so destroying lives of people who did the work with agreed contracts doesn't sit well with me. The men at the Top aren't having THEIR package > agreed upon and provided for in return for doing / having done their job > hacked out from underneath them > nor is this being called for by the Business TV- Cable Channel programs. GM takes care of their own > old school and presentable - 'a contract made / a contract kept'. Not making your portfolio enough cash ? They are one of the TOP Dividend paying Corporates. Washington Politicians put the hit on GM [perhaps their portfolios sought cheaper GM stocks >? ] GM - who had spent their development monies on DIESEL HYBRIDS > which is right on the money in Europe > which is going thru what one Senator aptly put: DIESELIZATION. Hear the Gas Moguls cry to the Senate Hearings about the 'Boutique Fuels' they make - one reason given for their jacking the price of fuel up ? Why all this crap here in the USA as to Fuel Prices ? Because > you have Washington OKying consolidation of Corporates that were once competitiors while they buy in on the projected earnings per share jump. I want that CEO of EXXON / MOBIL for our next President because that sone of a Bitch is PRETTY! As a friend stated to me for a 'cure' of this collusion between the Fuel Moguls and their 'pay or fuk off' attitude > which CNBC seems to support as 'Free Market Pricing' > although there are memos out from the Oil congloms as to closing refineries for higher profits according to one CNBC interviewee > which CNBC never followed up on .......... Line the 7 of those Moguls up - put a bullet in the back of a random selections head - and direct the remaining to sharpen their pencils on Retail Pricing for the country that gave them their opportunities to not be feeding their families from charity handout stations. I find this abstraction somewhat reasonable considering Diesel in Alaska is $6.00 gal. > and most Farm Industries are closing here in the USA. GM going out of Business > ? Brien. NEW YORK