re: power brake boosters

[Justin Shelton <justinshelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tom -

I'm glad to see your questions about power brakes -
kinda odd the way I'm dealing with the same or similar
issues right now.

My '62 Cross Country has power brakes, and last week I
pulled the master cylinder and booster.  Got all the
rust off of both, then I bought an NOS rebuild kit off
of Ebay and was planning to rebuild the stuff this
week.  

My question is: Rather than rebuild my existing
components, would I be better off pulling a booster
and master cylinder from a newer junkyard car?  A
couple months back someone posted that they were using
a brake setup from an S10 or Sonoma, and I'm wondering
if retrofitting newer components is really the way to
go.  The main issues I see are 1) clearance (although
that booster I pulled is about as big as they come!)
and 2) how easily a retrofit will fit with the
existing brake pedal linkage.

Are there other issues, like how much braking power I
need?  If I retrofit, should I look to pull a master
cyklinder and booster from a car equivalently as heavy
as my '62 wagon?

Thanks for everything, guys.

- Justin

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To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: power brake boosters
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:38:40 -0800

So what's the deal with power brake boosters? I have
very little  
experience with them (few of my cars have had power
brakes!) and I've  
got a bad one; it leaks down less than 20 seconds
after the engine's  
off, and it has a "stiff spot" (low assist) on the
first bit of  
travel (feels like "stiction" in the pedal or linkage,
but I checked  
very carefully).

The only replacement I can find is $110 from NAPA, and
comes with a  
master cylinder. I don't need one of those, I ahve a
new one installed.

Are boosters generally interchangable? Are they
rebuildable at home?  
Kits?

I suspect there's only two or three physical types (in
AMC land) but  
I have no way to identify them.



                      
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From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 1984 AMC Eagle and Intake Manfold ID
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:33:50 -0800
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx

>
> I knew the valve covers were an issue. As I
mentioned in another  
> post, my 86 is leaking. One thing about this 84.
Most valve covers  
> seem to have bolts around the edges to hold the
cover on (as it  
> appears to be in the procedure that, I beleive it
was Wayne, posted  
> the link to. But on this 84 it has 2 (I think it was
2) studs or  
> bolts coming up through the valve cover to hold it.
Are there metal  
> replacements for that style?

Yeah, the aftermarket covers (like the finned aluminum
job I got from  
AK Jacobs) require you to tap those holes, 5/16" and
1/4" I think  
(something like that) and comes with allen head bolts.

The real problem is that there simply aren't enough
holes around the  
perimeter, on this or any of this AMC six, really. I
would like to  
see one every 4 - 6 inches.

I miss my old Gen 1 V8 here -- huge, fat rubber
gaskets, cover held  
on with two wing-nutted studs.



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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:01:16 -0700
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From: "hhclutter" <hhclutter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1969 Javelin for sale!

I am in Abilene Texas on business and saw this ad in
the American 
Classifieds paper.

"1969 Javelin (AMC) 290 (4 bbl) 3 sp, restored,
immaculate, Spoiler, 
traction 
bars, extras.   325-338-2297."


If you are interested, contact the seller directly.  I
don't know 
anything
about the car other that what is in the ad infor
above.


Howard Clutter
67 Rogue convertible
72 Javelin


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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:16:50 -0800
From: "Ralph Ausmann" <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fw: Tire sizes
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Can anyone help with the tire sizes for James here. 
Please copy him in
direct as he apparently is not a list member.
(James Finholt <jfinholt1@xxxxxxxxxxx>)

James, you can join the AMC-List at www.amxfiles.com. 
 List members 
are
very responsive with information and you will get more
immediate 
results
than is usual with other such list groups.
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Ausmann  -  Hillsboro, OR - >
ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx
http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/  ... and "check
the links"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: James and Christi Finholt
To: ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Tire sizes


Good Morning!

I am trying to locate what tire options are available
for my 1967 Rebel
SST convertible.  I have been searching the Internet
for several weeks
and have not been able to locate a source that lists
the size options
for this car.  It is nearing completion on the
restoration so it is 
time
to select the tires and rims.  I want to go "old
school" and large in
the back and smaller in the front but no source I find
lists the 
factory
sizings or limitations

Can you help???

James A. and Christi D. Finholt
3510 16th Court South
Salem, OR  97302
503.588.9111




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To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: more brake booster
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:57:48 -0800

Erm, it seems I have a drum brake booster behind my
disk brake master  
cylinder. The Rock Auto site has links to Cardone
pages, which has  
excellent photos by the way (I assume they are correct
:-)

I got the booster with the car, as parts-in-the-trunk,
but I am  
fairly sure it came off the car, which did have drums
up front. It's  
also a bellcrank linkage model (booster lives on an
adapter that  
accomodates the bellcrank and pushes it away from the
firewall).

I know the drum booster is single-diaphragm and the
disk is double.  
This is just fine by me, I dislike feather-touch
brakes.

A major feature is that the drum booster is inches
shallower,  
something to keep in mind for oddball installs.

The booster is just a simple servo, right? There's no
weirdness ie.  
drum vs. disk is there? Just fit and amount of boost?

(Since I'm plumbed for the disk brake master cyl on
the end of the  
drum brake booster I'd rather keep it this way, the
lessened boost is  
only a plus. It's luxurious compared to the Rambler,
'79 disk setup  
with no boost at all).