" From: greg55_99@xxxxxxxxx " " On August 26, 2005 andrew hay wrote: " " > similar but not identical. note the single centered top hole on the " > bell but two symmetrical top bolts on the engine. there are some " > similarities though, almost as if that was an adapter ring on the back " > of the block. " " Your right, that is an adapter ring on the back of the block, but I " believe the bolt pattern is the same. The top bolt in the 3.9L V6 " pattern is just not there in the Mopar Small block pattern, but all " of the other holes match up. I'll actually try to verify that the " diesel pattern is the same, but, in all honesty, I think it is. now my head is starting to explode. all the engine swap possibilities... " > i believe this is a mercedes engine [om612?], in large scale production " > in germany. iirc it's a 5-cyl, sibling to the 6 in the mercedes 320. " " Naw, it's a Detroit Diesel by way of Italy. " " http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/liberty-review.html that would be vm motori. does penske own them now? they've been the us importer/rep. and i checked the dd link - all of the vm pdfs are broken links. but i also found http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/liberty-history.html - a telling history by an ex-mopar jeep designer who knows where at least some of the bodies are buried. now if we can only get those beijing jeep cherokees over here... ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought