Michael, My Javelin came with the 390 and 4 speed as options with both manual steering and manual drum brakes. I don't think it is all that uncommon to see drum brakes on these cars. As it was mentioned earlier, disk brakes weren't considered to be necessary back in the late '60's. What I do find odd about mine is it came with a 3.54 open rear end. I would have thought the posi to be a no-brainer if you were buying the badest engine/trans combo possible. In contrast to disk brakes, posi units were common in performance cars. It's also evident that the engine/trans combo was used to to its fullest. From the collision damage that was on this car, it must have been a real street warrior. Maybe if disk brakes had been ordered, it would have crashed fewer times :) Other than the engine, trans and Big Bad paint options, I think the only option ordered was the tach. (the small clock sized one - not the big speedo-sized one). I guess this was AMC's answer to the Roadrunner - big engine in a spartan lightweight package. Ross Blair Ottawa, Ont. '69 BBO Javelin SST 390 4 sp. ___________________________________________________________________________ While I haven't posted to this list often, I've had a '68 Ambo DPL for a while and have now acquired a '69 Javelin. It is not an SST, it has a 343 and was originally equipped with a 4bbl, has Auto trans on the floor, dual exhaust, chrome valve covers, platinum interior, Group 19 R4B Edelbrock intake manifold and a 140mph speedo/tach. What's strange is that the last owner says the car DID NOT have disc brakes! It does now, but after recalling doing a conversion with parts from a 75 Hornet. This guy knows a lot about AMC/Rambler, but maybe his memory isn't too clear, as he's had nearly every other type of AMC except for the AMX and SC/Rambler. So basically what I'm asking is, if I walked into an AMC showroom in 1969 and ordered this car without disc brakes, they'd build it? Now I know AMC was a bit unconventional, but I have a hard time accepting that any salesperson in their right mind would have let someone buy this car and pay for all the options and not sell them on disc brakes. I'd love to have the build sheet on this one! Michael Kelly -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm