RE: [gremlintime] Digest Number 275

[Bill Rice <Kygremlin76@xxxx>]

Hi, my name is Bill and I am a triple Gremlin owner. I have modified and 
1976 AMC Gremlin 232 cu.in. engine hooked to an automatic transmission and 
did end up with about a 200 horse power engine. I did the following to the 
original engine:

1.	Bored engine .030" over.
2.	Complete overhaul of the engine with new pistons and the engine was 
blueprinted.
2.	I installed a mild cam, 272/264 degree, which was as hot a cam 
recommended without installing a stall converter on the transmission 
which I did not want to go to the expense of doing.
3.	Clifford 4-barrel intake.
4.	Clifford split dual headers with Turbo mufflers.
5.	Holley 390 cfm carburetor. This was a mistake because it was to small. 
That is right it was to small. I had to make many modifications to the 
carb in order to get it to work properly. A 450 cfm carb would have been 
much better, I think. I am going to put a 600 cfm Eldabrock on the 258 
cu. in. engine I will be building up this winter. This engine will be 
hooked to a 4-speed standard transmission and will have the most radical 
cam I can find.
6.	Raised the compression slightly to about 9 to 1.
7.	I used stock ignition.
8.	Installed a B & M shift kit in the 904 Chrysler automatic transmission.
9.	I use a K & N air filter.

On the computer program that I have, it indicates that this engine has 
about 200 hp. I have had my car on the drag strip and by best ET is 17.162 
and my best speed is 79.168 mph. My major problem is that I do not have a 
posi rear end and I have difficulty getting off the line and spin the tires 
again when it shifts from first to second. I get my quickest ET allowing a 
1, 2, and 3 shift. I get my fastest speed allowing only a 1 and 2 shift.

When you install the 4-barrel carburetor, you do not install it the same 
way you do on a V-8 engine. I did initially until someone pointed out what 
I had done and the results of this type of installation. The primary jets 
are in the front of the carburetor and therefore cylinders 1,2, and 3 get a 
richer mixture of fuel than do cylinders 4,5 and 6. When I remounted the 
carburetor sideways, I realized a great increase in low end torque and an 
increase in horsepower. That change alone netted a reduction in my ET by 
.500 and an increase in speed of 2 mph in the quarter mile. Prior to the 
change I had only a little trouble getting off the line, not so now.

With my 258 cu.in. and 4-speed standard transmission in my 1978 AMC Gremlin 
I am making the following additional changes which according to the 
computer will yield 300+ hp:

1.	600 cfm Eldabrock carburetor.
2.	Increase compression ratio to 10.5/11.5 to 1.
3.	290 degree cam.
4.	MSD Ignition system including an MSD distributor and coil.
5.	Electric fuel pump.
6.	Electric water pump drive.
7.	Electric cooling fan for the radiator.
8.	Fuel cooling container.
9.	A ram air intake system if I can engineer one.

Everything will be switched so that during the actual drag, in that this 
car has manual steering, the engine will be driving the car and a 
free-wheeling alternator. The ignition system and the electric fuel pump 
will be operating off of only the battery. I have just purchased a posi 
rear end for this car because with the high mileage tired engine in the car 
now, I cannot keep the right rear wheel hooked up at all in the first two 
gears. I have to keep patting the accelerator. When it rains, taking off 
from a stop is like driving on ice. It is actually dangerous to drive on a 
wet road with the stock hp to car weight ratio. I am hoping that with the 
posi and a better wheel/tire selection I will be able to convert the 300 hp 
to contact with the pavement.

Hope this has been informative.

A Gremlin Nut,
Bill


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There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. <toys> BBGreen AMX by Ertl is out, and purchased...
From: Gremlingts@xxxx
2. Re: <toys> BBGreen AMX by Ertl is out, and purchased...
From: Meatplow33@xxxx
3. horsepower limits on inline 232?
From: cyebo@xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:37:08 EDT
From: Gremlingts@xxxx
Subject: <toys> BBGreen AMX by Ertl is out, and purchased...

I bought one of those "Limited Edition" BBG AMX's that I saw sell on
Ebay a few months ago for $250 for one, for $23 down at my local Toys R Us
store this past week. The TRU had 6 of them on the shelf at the Fairfax 
City
area store in Virginia. Guess they're not TOO limited, LOL. Being as how 
I"m
getting married in 4 months, I guess I"ll have to cut back on my "AMC"
acquisitions soon! I hope to have the Gremlin(s) ready for the wedding, I
would like to use them in it, but the Fiancee is saying No way. :( Well,
guess I can still use the GT as the getaway car, so it'll get in the 
wedding
pictures. Hmm, purple wedding dress, bright Sun Orange Gremlin...nice 
combo!
Maybe I should use the gold Gremlin instead.... :) Would be nice to have 
the
sunroof available but that's a LTP - Long Term Project. Oh well. Hopefully 
I
won't have to sell off anything, like I hear some newly married couples 
have
to do...I already have the house, we already have her 16-year-old teenager, 
so there's no more expensive "acquisitions" to make AFTER we get married.
Anyone want to trade me a paid honeymoon for a project '76 Gremlin? :) Hmm, 
two nights in a Southeast DC motel? Nah...
Guess I'll work on garage organizing some more today, finding floor
space, and packing stuff "upstairs". Even with two "small" Gremlins inside, 
there's not much room, but I can move the non-essentials up into the attic
space for storage. Well, times awastin', gotta do some work while the sun
shines ( and it isn't raining! ). AMC ya, folks

Jerry
Woodbridge, VA
Soon to be Mr. AND Mrs. Gremlin Owner...


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:02:40 EDT
From: Meatplow33@xxxx
Subject: Re: <toys> BBGreen AMX by Ertl is out, and purchased...

congratulations on getting ready to get married, is this your first time?
what size are the bbg amx?
thanks, craig


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 05:17:34 -0000
From: cyebo@xxxx
Subject: horsepower limits on inline 232?

Hey all, i was reading were the 232 in my Gremlin has 135 stock
horses. I was told that i could get 200 out of it or so with a bunch
of mods. I am thinking 65 horses with headwork, cam, 4 barrell n
intake, dual exhaust, electronic ignition, uping the compression from
8
to1 to 10 to 1 and more! Some say i can get up to 300 plus. I cant
believe I can only gain 65 horses after all that. Id say you would
get at least 125 to 150 horses or so. Whats everyone think?



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