Bart... I have never personally used one, but I have heard some really good things about them. They are rather on the expensive side but from all the praise that I have heard...its well worth it and the money you have to fork out for one. I have heard that they use really good quality wires and everything is marked where it goes. Let me know what you want to do about that bumper. If you do use one of those painless, post a message and let us all know if it really is a painless.... in the a$$less! LOL!! Bill Renshaw Lewiston Idaho AKA Brother B. As always....Keep on a Ramblin'!! 1973 Gremlin X "clone" (project) 1970 Original Hornet "plain jane" 1974 Matador Coupe "Parts car" >From: baadass73gremlin@xxxxxxx >Reply-To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Anyone here used Painless wiring for thier cars? >Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:23:52 EDT > >I want to rewire my Gremlins chintzy ass wiring set up as its old and nasty >looking and i wanna make sure my wires don't crap out on me.So is any one >has >used that Painless wiring kit.is it a good set up?and is it truly pain in >the > assless? >Bart Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/