Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re Mexican 282-6

[Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here's some more information on the 282.  I remember reading somewhere that it 
was designed to run on very low octane gas, maybe as low as 50.  Anyway, 
here's some info from the AMC list.

Todd

On Thursday 31 March 2005 22:31, Jim Blair wrote:
>  282 cu inch
>
> Type and nuber of cylinders: Inline six
> Bore: 3.910 inches
> Stroke: 3.895 inches
> Displacement: 4621 cubic centimeters (282 cubic inches)
> Compression Ratio: 8.5 : 1
> Net SAE Power: 129 Horsepower @ 4000 RPM
> Torque: 218 lbs-foot @ 1800 RPM
>
> Carburator: 2 barrels


On Thursday 15 January 2004 13:10, farna@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Looks like the 282 cid is correct. The problem is with the assumption that
> the same stroke as the 258 was used since the 252 uses the same stroke as
> the 232. The stroke is slightly longer at 3.895" instead of 3.875". Bore is
> 3.91" as previously posted. Here's the message I received from a contact
> who has been researching VAM (owns one or two) and is in Mexico:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Hello again Frank,
>
> Happy New Year. I have found some info on the 282 in apparently the only
> VAM community on the web, which is hosted by MSN groups. The following info
> in italics and then bolds was written by a user. I did my best in
> translating it despite that I missed some terms.
> http://mx.msnusers.com/AutosClasicosMexicanos/forovamamc.msnw?action=get
> _message&mview=0&ID_Message=485&LastModified=4675454517345524105
>
> Well, the 4.6 engine is only of VAM, it was only built in Mexico. It is in
> fact a large engine, the "cilindrada" (bore or stroke probably, don't know
> how to translate that) is worthy of a V8.
>
> Now for the numbers...
>
> The engine is an inline six cylinder, the diameter of the pistons is 9,931
> cubic centimeters (3,910 cubic inches), the length of the "carrera" (the
> length of the space that the piston covers while moving) is 9.893 cubic
> centimeters (3.895 cubic inches). The displacement of the engine is 4622
> cubic centimeters (282 cubic inches) the compresion ratio of the engine is
> 8.0:1, and here comes what I think interests you: the net SAE power is 132
> horse power @ 3800 RPM, the net engine (torque) is 29.87 km-ma @ 2200 RPM
> (216 lbs-foot @ 2200 RPM), the carburator is a two-barrel.
>
> As you can see, the interesting part of the engine is that the torque and
> power are generated at very  low revolutions per minute (the present-day
> ones reach the top around 4000 4500 RPM or more), this makes the car more
> agile, the power is the turns it can reach and the torque is thee weigh
> multiplied by length unit it lift, the engine is powerful enough to carry
> the weigh of the car.
>
> In my opinion both are important (power and torque), but to me the torque
> is a little more, I had the chance of driving a Saab 9-3 and had the
> knowledge that it was a car that generated much torque at low revolutions,
> so the driveability of the car has impressive acceleration, in the highway
> passing other cars and "recovering" are very fast. Vans also have more
> torque than power so they can lift all the extra weigh they put on them.
>
> I have seen that the Javelin had a 4.6 inline six rated at 200 horse power,
> but I have no information on it. What I have information about is the "high
> performance", it is the same engine but the compression ratio changed to
> 8.5:1 generating 31.11 kg-m @2200 RPM (225 lbs-foot) and offers the
> desirable quantity of 172 horse power @ 4200 revolutions, this engine was
> carried by the four-speed-maual Rally GT, this solved the problem of the
> engine feeling underpowered at high speeds in highway.
>
> I hope this data is of use to you.
>
> There are no much observations I can give you since I hardly know about
> engines, and since I can't find the spanish terms for engine parts some
> parts are hard to understand. Can you tell me the Spanish terms of "bore",
> "stroke", "intake" and "headers" if you can find them? Or please describe
> them for me.
>
> I know about the high performance engine, it was introduced in 1979 in a
> limited/special edition American (Concord) called 06-S. Only 499 units were
> made, and from 1980 on the engine was passed to the Rally (Spirit) in its
> GT version, as far as I know it was never offered with automatic
> transmission. for more info on the high performance 282 go here:
> http://www.amcwc.com/VAM.html
>
> As for the 200 horse power version, I have seen that in some VAM brouchure
> shots over the web, I said before that it might be a marketing exageration
> but there was another weird edition of the 282. I know it from my dad, it
> was called 4.6 X, which was a modified engine designed to achieve a
> dramatically high acceleration but low speed. It's top was 140 kilometers
> an hour (80 - 90 miles per hour). Unfortunately, I don't have any
> specifications on it.
>
> I hope all of this was of any use. As soon as I get more information I will
> let you know.
>


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