Thanks guys. Doc, yeah I tightened everyting down real good. I
even untightened and retightened everthing twice, to see if the bolt
would go into the perch more, but it didn't.
Davis, instead of drilling the hole in the perch, do you think I
could fashion a spacer plate to fill the gap? I'm a little nervous
about altering the perch only because if I mess it up, then I have
an even bigger problem. I figure that I could cut a 2-3" section
from the old spring, then drill it so that it fits over the center
bolt. At least 2/3 of the bolt (about 1/4") fits into the perch
hole currently, so I thought fashioning this spacer would be ok (it
would be kind of like a very thin lowering block).
Thanks again,
Dan
--- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Davis Martin <martin-
davis@...> wrote:
>
> Dan,
> You will need to grind down the stub some and drill the hole in
the spring perch bigger to fit the step.
> otherwise you risk the rear end moving.
> Davis
>
> "Dan M." <vegadan@...> wrote:
> Well, I got the springs in, but I noticed that the spring pads
or
> perches that are welded to the bottom of the axle, do not contact
> the top of the spring, like the original springs did. There is
> about 1/16" gap between the top of the spring and the bottom of
the
> pad. I tried unistalling and reinstalling the springs, but it
> didn't help. I noticed that the stub that is on top of the spring
> which fits into the hole in the axle pad, is taller than the
> original spring. I also noticed that the stub has a brim where it
> enters the sprimg (the bset way to describe the stub and brim is
> that it looks like a derby hat). I thought about trimming the
stub,
> but because of the brim, the pad will still not come into conatct
> with the spring. With this gap, will the axle rotate on
> acceleration? Should I place some pieces of the old springs
between
> the pad and the spring to close up the gap? Any help would be
> appreciated since this has turned into a big pain.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan M." wrote:
> >
> > I tried installing just the bushings in the eyelet, and
tightening
> > up the shackles. The busihngs did tighten up some in the eyelet,
> > but I felt it was still a little loose. Then I got the idea of
> > putting just a strip of the red rubber in the eyelet with the
> > bushings, insted of making a full sleeve. When I put in about a
> 1"
> > wide strip and installed the bushings, things tightened up
pretty
> > nicley without getting too snug. I was able to rotate the
shackle
> > about the bolts by hand, which is something I couldn't do with
the
> > full red rubber sleeve. So, I'm thinking that this is the way to
> > go. Any comments?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan M." wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, I just got off of the phone with Espo and I'm not sure
what
> to
> > > do. According to the person that I talked to, the leaf eyelets
> > are
> > > made with a tolerance of about +/- 1/16". I guess that all
> > > manufactured items have tolerances, but it seems a little
> > excessive
> > > since the bushing pretty much giggles around in the eyelet. I
> was
> > > told that once the shackles are tightened, the bushing will
> expand
> > > to make up the space. Supposedly, they have answered this
> > question
> > > before, and have never had a problem. Now I'm wondering if
> > my "fix"
> > > is the right thing to do (after it's already in the car!).
When
> I
> > > said that adding the red rubber made things snug, I really
meant
> > > snug! The only way that the the bolts would pivot inside the
> > > busings (even after adding grease to be able to assemble them)
> was
> > > once the springs were bolted in, the weight of the car forced
> the
> > > spring flat so that the shackle would rotate around the
shackle
> > > bolts. I will check the "bushing expansion" theory tonite.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan M."
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doc, my car is a 6/4 speed amx. It doesn't have a front sway
> > > bar.
> > > > I was thinking of adding both a front and a rear sometime
down
> > the
> > > > road. The car is not really fast, but it is a lot of fun to
> > > drive.
> > > > Plus, I have plans for some minor mods for some extra hp.
> > > >
> > > > Onree, you are correct, this is a question that I will
contact
> > > Espo
> > > > about, since I bought everything from them. Unfortunately,
> they
> > > > won't be in their office until Monday, and I was hoping to
get
> > the
> > > > car on the road this weekend. I imagine that I would have to
> > wait
> > > > for them to send me another pair of springs, or bushings
that
> > will
> > > > fit the ones that I have, but I figure that as long as my
> > solution
> > > > is ok, I will get it together this weekend, and then call
them
> > on
> > > > Monday and see where it goes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all the input guys.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Onree wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This may seem obvious, but why not address this question
to
> > the
> > > > folks at
> > > > > ESPO??? Did you get the bushings from ESPO also? Suppliers
> get
> > > > away with
> > > > > this stuff because we let them.
> > > > > Onree
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > on 4/28/06 11:36 PM, Dan M. at vegadan@ did write:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok. I got home today and my new springs were there to
> greet
> > > > me! I
> > > > > > was so excited. I started to put them in, but I realized
> > that
> > > I
> > > > had a
> > > > > > problem. The rear spring eyelet is slightly bigger than
> the
> > > > lower
> > > > > > shackle bushing. The eyelet is about 1 1/16" in
diameter,
> > > while
> > > > the
> > > > > > bushing is 1". I measured the old spring's eyelet, and
it
> > > > turned out
> > > > > > to be 1" also, so I think maybe Espo made a mistake. So
> my
> > > > questions
> > > > > > are, has anybody else encountered this, and what did
they
> do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I went to the hardware store and got a piece of red
> rubber,
> > > 1/16"
> > > > > > thick. I fashioned a sleeve that fit inside the eyelet,
> > that
> > > I
> > > > then
> > > > > > slipped the bushing into. It was all very snug, so I had
> to
> > > use
> > > > > > grease to get it all together. It fit real snug. Any
> > > comments
> > > > on
> > > > > > this solution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, AMC74HORNET@
wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hey Dan that's what we are all here for to help each
> other.
> > > > Using old
> > > > > >> springs would have been a waste of time and money. I
have
> > had
> > > my
> > > > > > yellow
> > > > > >> 74 Hornet since it was new 32 years ago so I have an
idea
> > on
> > > > many
> > > > > >> problems that most Gremlin. Hornet owners have had
since
> I
> > > have
> > > > had
> > > > > >> them. On my 2 1/2 year old orange 74 Hornet project I
> have
> > > had
> > > > a few
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >> never had on the yellow one. I am still learning after
> all
> > > these
> > > > > > years
> > > > > >> and being a professional mechanic for over 40 years.
> > > > > >> You will love the new springs. Be sure to use a good
> brand
> > of
> > > > HD gas
> > > > > >> shocks too, you won't be sorry.
> > > > > >> "Doc"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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