or more specific:Only 360 you could get in 1977 was in Matador series, not anything else.TheK046xxx (no need to be secretive here) isKenosha (for K) and your six digit sequence numberThe 7703-7 ismodel, body and appointment groupIn this case it is77=197703=2door hatchback7=standard appointment groupThe trim number is next at 7110the 7 is 1977the 1 should be hatchback/hornetthe 1 should be vinyl (I am doing this from memory sorry)the 0 should be buckets....possibly spilt bench....would have to checkThe 6P is Firecracker Red (learn more here off my site)The E847xxx (again no one gives a shit here, no need to be all mystery, put the whole numbers up!) but this is your build sequence number.The E is Kenosha East Line. The remaining numbers is the production line number of the vehicle in which it was built. See metel door tag link above off my site for more info.Have fun with it. Want a copy of this factory photo above it is $9 + $2.50 shipping in shameless plug.----- Original Message -----From: eddie walkerSent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:15 AMSubject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: CANADIAN CAR!?HiI would like to ask a question about a 2 door It looks Hornet I just purchased today.The car is currently a 360 4spd car.It has flares and back louvers.It looks like an AMX would look.However I cant decipher all the numbers on the car.The VIN is A7C037C10xxxx. I understand that to be a hornet hatchback with a 258 auto ( I think). The rest of the numbers on door, I am having a hard time with. They areK046xxx.............7703-7...........7110........6P..........E847xxxWhat do they mean? thanks....eddie
Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Your car is a early build, Oct/1969-mid Nov/69. Unusual is that it is a plain jane as most plain jane anything AMC usually........and sadly......gets cannibalized for other cars. So seldom see stuf on showfileds like a base six Javelin. Take time to look at them, they are more important from a historical aspect than say a 343 loaded Javelin. You sure say gently a lot Bill, got me a little worried about you. Most of us would have used the $1.00 store chisle and sledge to remove it, then hold it up in the air like record trout!----- Original Message -----From: William RenshawSent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:57 AMSubject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: CANADIAN CAR!?Eddie, THANKS FOR THE LINK!! EXCELLENT!! Now I have some idea of what and where this car came from. I really appreciate your time and efforts! Let ya all know the ins and outs of this car. Heres the vin..... A0S060A137127.... From what I can decifer, this was an American made car shipped to Canada. Year 1970 Three speed manual, Base model, 2dr sedan, 232 inline 6. Just your plain jain Hornet. I do believe that the c/c was not a dealer installed option and it was genlty removed from the car the other day. All parts where saved and gently wrapped in a cloth sheet and stored in a box with a few moth balls for storage. If I do find out that it was a dealer installed option, at least I will still have it and it will be in the shape that it was in when pulled from the car. Thanks again for all the tips and help I get from everyone here. Bill Id.
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: CANADIAN CAR!?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:36:59 -0600
Bill the Canadian AMCs were built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada. Later, Bramalea. But yours originated in Brampton. Here is more about the VIN:Speaking (no pun intended) on occasion you see the AMC Canadian FRENCH AMC color catalogs. Yes, I can hear Bart spitting his burrito across the room now thinking ofLA GREMLIN LA JOIE DE VIVRE A BON MARCHE!Go do a search on www.ebay.com for 'amc french' and check out the brochures. Something, you, even Doc, who have Canadian built AMCs could add too your collection. Great to put on your seat or dash as shows and watch people freak out. Good way to meet French Canadian chicks too, most of them have all their teeth, and they like AMC!----- Original Message -----From: William RenshawSent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:22 AMSubject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Dealer installed C/C!? CANADIAN CAR!? F.L.B.T.?? ARRRGGG!!Thanks John but I do believe that it is staying where it has been for the past 35-36 years. Bill Id.
From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Dealer installed C/C!? CANADIAN CAR!? F.L.B.T.?? ARRRGGG!!
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:13:02 -0500
Sounds to me like dealer crusie. Very rare item. If you do
remove it, cut NOTHING. Remove it slowly and carefully, and
gather all the components together, then toss them on eBay
and see what happens. :)
John W Rosa
www.JavelinAMX.com
-----Original Message-----
From: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Renshaw
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:44 PM
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Dealer installed C/C!? CANADIAN CAR!?
F.L.B.T.?? ARRRGGG!!
I got to messin' around with my Hornet yesterday, and before I do my
Homer impression, and do sumfin' really stoopid, I was wondering if
anyone here could give me some info on this car. This c/c has got me
just stumped and before I go cuttin' and a yankin' stuff out. I would
like to know if this c/c would or could be a dealer installed/option
accesory. Come to find out this c/c doesnt look like, after all, an
aftermarket item. It has brackets that mount to the carb, that look
like a factory or dealer installed item. The vacume "box" that runs
the c/c, on the p/s inner fender look like its been there for the
life of the car The "funny little blue thingy" which I now will refer
to it as F.L.B.T. on the intake manifold, which I have never seen
before, which has its own supply of vacume, off of the intake, which
has a vacume line that comes from the distributor. The vacume
advance, which has 2 vacume lines(never seen that before either) one
goes to the carb as normal(vacume spark as normal) and one goes to
the F.L.B.T. When the car runs(which is really good) the F.L.T.B.
makes a funny little "clicking" sound. The F.L.T.B. has a vacume line
that goes to the "box" for the c/c. The car came with the original
owners manual and it states that there was a dealer/option installed
c/c. Could this c/c be a dealer installed option? I thought that the
car would of came from the local AMC dealer in Moscow Id. On the back
of the owners manual someone had wrote where the car and what dealer
the car came from. It came from a dealer in Calgary Canada.
CANADA!!?? Why would someone buy a car in Canada and bring it to the
States? Is that, or was that a common practice? I need a sevice
manual and my "cherished" clymer or chilton or what ever it is only
goes back to 71 and has nothing about a c/c. I know that I have alot
of questions and I hope that I didnt confuzz anyone here more than
what I am already. Anyone who can, once again, point me in the
direction of a service manual for a 1970 AMC Hornet, and maybe give
me some idea on the c/c and the Canadian thing. I really dont want to
do anything to the car, and do the Homer Simpson thing, like, tear
stuff out that maybe very rare and very hard to find and then........
D-OH! Bill "confused in Northern Idaho" LOL!!
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