I am sorry for you Bart. Today is 20 years ago my father passed. He is the reason I am such an obnoxious pain in the ass I am about quality and detail. He taught me the right way to do things. Again Bart I feel for you man. "Doc" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/