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Before we get really off topic, there are 15+
million dogs and cats put to sleep each year in the US.
That to me is cruelty, as most are healthy. There
are neighborhoods near you, me, anywhere where animals run loose, then are hit
and killed by cars, shot, trapped, even bred to fight. We were talking about
mice, not dogs, or cats. Yup, there is a all sorts of things out there that
are cruel on the market, even Sudafed or paint I guess.
But before this sprials out of control into a
animal rights, greenpeace, peta (people eat tasty animals) or other topics, we
are talking about destructive mice and how to keep them out of homes, cars, and
what measures folks, including myself, take to prevent it.
I like the hauling them down to the big wooded
field John mentions, however, that will not solve the problem, especially if you
are in a home/neighborhood, as they will quickly breed again. Sort of like relocation programs, you put wolves in certain
areas, some like that idea to pepopulate, others see it as hunting season. Same
with seals.Some see them as friends, others as foes. Wasps, same deal, one bit
Noah when he simply wandered near my 74, no pun intended, Hornet Sportabout
wagon, I, much less him, didn't know there was a big hive of Texas three inch
red wasps under the fender out of sight. His face swelled up like a pumpkin. I
took out the whole nest with poison, then proceeded to burn the larvaes, and was
so pissed off, then took out fire ant mounds and any spider in the yard. Uh,
later I filled the bird feeder. I don't like snakes either, and have caught 5-10
of them in the yard, however, I hold them down with a hoe and check their eyes,
if round, friends, and let them go, if eyes ain't round, it is Bastille Day and
the carcass goes in the road.
Back to AMC however, I have seen some expensive
interiors like Pierre Cardin destroyed by vermin. Everyone handles them
differently however, like John's plan and my plan. If terrorists ever figure out
how to infest rats with some sort of biological warfare, New York would be the
first to go:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:02
PM
Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: more
on mice
Well, I do own my own and have dealt with mice on a few ocassions over
the years.
'Have-a-Heart' traps did the trick everytime. Good ol' catch &
release....a mile or two
away
in a big wooded field. The adhesive traps are plain old cruelty in my
book.
It
isn't hard to put yourself in their shoes and realize the horror they suffer
as they
chew
off their own legs trying to escape. A little empathy goes a long way. If
I
wouldn't do it to my own dog, I won't do it to anything else. But then,
what some
people WOULD do to their own dogs saddens me.
John W Rosa
www.JavelinAMX.com
This is a website I researched
before trying several different methods. I am
sold on the square bait things that kill mice. Have to disagree with John on
letting them live however, as they only will come back and if you own your
own home, something you don't want is a infestation. If rent anything, let
managers handle it, but different when it is your pad.
I never knew mice were nibblers either. This
would explain what I found int he arage which attracted them in the first
place, they were after my dog food and bird seed. The bird seed, the little
bastards had only ate the sunflower seeds, leaving the shells behind; and
the dog kibbles I would find 1/2 eaten. I also tried the snap traps, and got
only two, mice are like squirrels really smart and seem to remember stuff,
like how to get past those. And the glue traps are worthless. I did however
catch one in a glue trap, and purposely put him in the middle of the field
behind my house where a big owl carried him off, trap and all.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:40
AM
Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re:
Looking for advice on car covers and storage tips
This is a good outlook but as rodents must gnaw constantly to limit
the growth of their incisor teeth they would gain access if they wished
and ruin the $200 bag also. These rodents can gain entrance through
openings much less then a half inch, which makes building
them out expensive. If you elect to stuff the openings it is best if a
steel wool is used to preclude them gnawing through.
Also being environmentally conscious I have come to
realize that there are times when protecting our property take
precedence.
John W Rosa
<JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From the 'live and let live' contingent, I say whatever runs 'em
off without
hurting them is the method I'd go with.
If your storage has holes- fix them [there's that uncommon
'common sense'
again].
If the soap smell drives them away, what could be safer for you
and the car....
and makes opening the door next spring a more pleasant
experience?
Worst case- one of those storage bags (about $200) seals the car
from
all invaders...and keeps the dust and other crap off,
too.
Save the killing for the truly deserving.
John W Rosa
www.JavelinAMX.com
Eddie,
What do these poison blocks say about when the little critters
crawl inside a wall to pass away? Worked pest management for 20+ in
the AF and a dead animal in a wall is next to impossible to locate do
to the drafts moving the ODOR. This is why I said traps plus the more
you catch the more 'chili con carne'.
I like the "Irish Spring" idea plus the rondents can bath.
Hal
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
On mice, I recently tried some square
things that are green, and some that are granola colored, they are
small squares, sold at Home Depot to kill mice. I had mice getting
in my garage, little field mice good for maybe a taco. This stuff is
unbelieveable and I wished I knew the name of it, but it killed 7 of
them dead as hell. I tried the sticky glue flat things and those
suck. But all the mice are dead and any others that might have
considered coming in have not. Pretty powerful and impressive stuff.
Go to Home Depot and check it out, about 12 squares for
$5.
I have also put bars of Irish Spring in
cars before. Works well but you still will have mice in the area
like floor or rafters. Bes thting about Irish Spring is when you
open your car up for spring cleaning it is strong enough for a man,
but made for a woman :~X))
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 15,
2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re:
[BaadAssGremlins] Looking for advice on car covers and storage
tips
Ralph,
If you can stand it MothBalls work best at repelling rodents(
though a nice fat snake is as good). If you are a country boy in
the south then Bodark apples will do the trick. Personbally I
would trap the rodents and put some of those toilet bowl cakes in
the car. rebade1 <rebade1@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote: Rod,
You
said in your recent post that you got a new car cover for the
Gremmie. Any recommendation on what to look for in a car
cover besides
fit. I don't want another winters dust on the
car.
Also, I have put dryer sheets in the interior to
keep the critters out.
Any other suggestions in that regard
would be welcome also, as I have
some mice and ground
squirrels that seem to always end up in my
garage.
Ralph
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