[BaadAssGremlins] Re: Camshaft reccomendations for 401 in my Gremlin...Ro...

["jgray_55" <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>]

YUP...Davis you did warn me!! Guess i'm kinda like a kid..gotta 
learn? Anyway..I'm a little bit warry of my custom comp cam..for an 
auto trans...its a 108 centerline. Thats too close for Auto...dont 
you think?  Lift and duration are about right...but the 108 will be 
more of a top ender. Was made for a four speed 390 car.Most all Auto 
trans cams  seem to be atleast 110 degree centerline...or there will 
be too much overlap at lower rpm.Now...i'm going to ATTEMPT to get 
Engle to NOT ship that @##@%$ wrong cam. Already emailed them the 
same night that i had listened to the butt-head and ordered 
it....Friday.NOW..WHY would they stock AMC cams...BUT no lifters???? 
We'll see how they are on straightening stuff out. I had "wanted" to 
give them a try..because they supposedly just came out with new 
designs...to work with the large AMC .904 lifter size. It  was about 
3 pm their time....thats when they close. Maybe it was a "HURRY UP..i 
gotta go home" deal?? The fellow i talked with is Doug(maybe the Doug 
thats the original owners son? Two sons still have the place..Jack 
Engle is retired or whatever.I do beleive that Rons suggestion is a 
real good one!!!! IF..ENGLE fixs this..i'll get the Comp. BUT..they 
might go ahead and bill my card and ship it and say"gee didn't get 
your message till after we shipped it"..HOPE NOT!!. Later...joe...--- 
In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Davis Martin <martin-davis@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Don't say I didn't warn ya... I thought you said Ron gave you a 
good suggestion? I still think you should use the cam you already 
have. Save your money and if you aren't happy with it THEN spend the 
money on a cam. It is an easy weekend swap and you will have a better 
idea of what you NEED for your combination. I think you may find your 
happy with it. Unless you just have money to burn?
>  I run a 4000 stall on the street and my cam is 236 dur and 540 
lift. Peak torque is like 3800 and peak HP is 6000 in my worn out 
360. I have reved it to 7000 but power dropped off passed 6000. I 
would have to get my dyno sheet to quote the exact #s but I believe 
it was like 420ftpds tq and  296 HP at the rear wheels thru the 400 
stall and 727 tranny, and ford 9" 456 minispooled rear with 28X 10x 
15 slicks.
>  Davis 
> 
> jgray_55 <jgray_55@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK...ENGLE has a moron (non AMC liking fellow..maybe?)answering the 
> phone.I told him my whole combo with car 
> weight,heads,compression,heads, and rear gears and all!! I guess 
i'm 
> stupid also. I listened to what he suggested. The cam he told me to 
> order is NOT a 2300-6300 rpm cam. Also WILL NOT work with 9.6/1 
> compression. I did not have access to their online catalog when 
> talking over the phone. The cam ### he sold me is a 3000-6800 rpm 
> full race cam. He said he could NOT tell me the advertised duration 
> from the catalog listing?? That duration ### would have told me it 
> was too high a rpm cam. What the hell? I just NOW read their online 
> catalog..WHAT abunch of crap he told me. I just emailed them and 
told 
> them NOT to send the cam he sold me!!! I picked a different 
> grind...570 lift/288 advertised duration(238 @ 50). It takes 9.5/1-
> 10/1 compression.Also it works from 2300-6300(printed right in the 
> #@$$#@% catalog!!!! Guess he thought it would be funny to screw 
with 
> a AMC guy...who trusted his suggestions??/// @#$#@%$^$ I'll let you 
> know what they say when i call them up!!Joe--- In 
> BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jgray_55" wrote:
> > 
> > -Ron made a very good suggestion...Comp Extreme Energy..520/523 
> > LIFT/230/236 duration (@50)..2000-6000 rpm powerband! Also i just 
> > located a Engle listing..# 5060H...570 lift with 288 duration
> (238@50)
> > 110 degree lobe centerline..2300-6300 rpm band. What does that 
> sound 
> > like??Sounds like it "might" work with a 2500 TCI?? I "DO NOT" 
have 
> a 
> > convertor yet...just comparing the TCI i got for my wifes 74 AMX. 
> > NOW...if a 3000-3200 would be streetable....with 3.55 or 3.91 
> > gears,and about a 26" tire....then i'd be good to go...huh? 
> OR...just 
> > get the more affordable 2500 and make the combo work? I CAN do 
> > either...750 AFB,800 AVS..maybe A LARGER holley?? 
> But..remember...I 
> > want to DRIVE IT AND RACE ON WEEKENDS/AND STOP LIGHTS(who me??)!!
> > Thanks again,Joe-- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
> > baadass73gremlin@xxxx wrote:
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 4/22/05 5:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> > > martin-davis@xxxx writes:
> > > 
> > > 456's are not very good for the street except for neighborhood 
> > terrorizing
> > > I would go with the 391's and a 26" tire 
> > > Davis 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Davis is right unless your running a 4 speed like i am and i 
have 
> > 4.56 gears 
> > > tho they still may be too low for me but i am gonna run 28 
> inch 
> > slicks.
> > > Bart
> 
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