-----Original Message----- From: Eddie Stakes [mailto:eddiestakes@xxxx] There has not been one dummy scooped SC/360 documented. You either had Go Pack or you didn't. There is a breakdown of cars, such as how many were 360, 3speeds, or 3604barrel, automatics. http://www.planethoustonamx.com/bodySC.htm Yes and no on the 72-74 Hornets with 360V8s. The SC/360 in 1971 was the most powerful Hornet ever built. While a 72-74 Hornet with a 360 is nice, none of them ever left Kenosha with a four barrel.....and a four speed was not a option on any of them. ======================================= As you said- "You either had Go Pack or you didn't." And SC/360s were available without the Go Pak. To quote the brochure: "This is a Hornet, too. Our SC/360. With all these standard features: A 360 cu. in. 245 hp. 2-barrel V-8, 3-speed floor shift, individual reclining seats to adjust to any angle, custom steering wheel, rally stripes, slot-style wheels, wide tires and space-saver spare. Plus this optional package: a 360 cu. in. 285 hp. 4-barrel V-8 with ram air scoop, dual pipes, handling package, white lettered tires, and tach. Another option: 4-on-the-floor with Hurst shifter." Thus, there are 'N' coded SC/360s as well as 'P' coded SC/360s. I stand corrected on the dummy scoop, as it seems by the above description that the 'N' code version got NO scoop, single exhaust, blackwall tires, and the 2-barrel with 3-speed manual or automatic. Have you any of these in the registry or have they disappeared under new paintjobs with no one knowing what they once were? Anyway- the base version of the SC/360 is the same car as the '72 Hornet X 360, as I said. As for 'power', remember that the 71 is rated gross, not net. The base SC was pumping a realistic 190HP to the transmission, compared to 175HP for the 72 version...hardly a monstrous drop. Yes, the Ram-Air 4v was available, but I was comparing the 2v SC/360. By the way- Twin Grip was not standard on any SC/360- it was an option! Yeesh!! ========================================= Now John, now that we have two loudmouths on here, a loudmouthed Joiseyian, you :~O)) and a loudmouthed Texan, me :~D))> ========================================= What about this group's creator, that loudmouthed Floridian?!?!?!?! :) ========================================= how about making Doc's day since he is battling Motorolaitis and show off your new toy? ========================================= OK, I'll send him the pics.