Ok, here's my 2 cents worth on the subject. - Drum brakes are imperfect due to certain design constraints. The drum brake pad contacts the surface a little at a time, it's literally "levered" into the drum via one dual-action piston. The much-maligned dual-cylinder ( 4-piston) brakes would shove the shoe into the drum in a much straighter line, and cause quicker braking, but they are apparently balky operating when old. Might have worked ok when new....but I digress. - The drum brakes fade also, due to their enclosed nature, which builds up heat with repeated use. Disc brakes aren't enclosed, and the more modern rotors are vented and sometimes have cooling holes drilled thru them, too, on extremely high-end sports cars. So discs may get hotter sooner due to quicker stopping ability ( and therefor more heat build-up ), but they dissipate heat much better and quicker. - Using a pad on the side of a rotating surface seems to be more efficient slowing down rotation than at the outer (faster) circumference location. I'm not up on the physics aspects, so can't explain WHY it seems to work better, but it does seem that applying pressure on the side of a rotating object is easier than pressing down on the edge. Probably has something to do with the torque curve and application of pressure to the centrifugal gradient of rotating mass ( ok,I just made all that stuff up...I don't KNOW ! :D ) - Lastly, drum brakes when wet can either grab or fade dangerously, as the water has to ride underneath a longer pad surface around the circumference, and if the water buildup is sufficient, I'd imagine it could hydroplane some, due to the levering action. With disc brakes, they are applied to the side surface, not the rotating on-end side, and literally wipe the surface much better, like a windshield wiper, so they are not as affected by water as a drum brake shoe would be. I guess the two biggest advantages are that 1) disc brakes are applied immediately over the entire pad surface, whereas the shoe pad has to be levered gradually onto a larger surface, and that takes time. and 2) the side pressure vs. outer circumference brake pressure stopping ability is more efficient on discs than drums. Hope this has been somewhat useful ( or less than 100 percent useless ) in helping explain disc brake use. FYI, Drum brakes were used almost exclusively in NASCAR racing up until around '71, when Penske used Girling discs on the Matador to win the Riverside ? CA roadrace, as it allowed them to ride the brakes in the curves, then mash the gas coming out and get a quicker jump. After that, other teams started using disc brakes as well, so AMC actually improved NASCAR racing competition at that point! :D Jerry Casper ===== --------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Casper , owner of 16 AMCs 7 Gremlins / 2 Javelins / 1 Hornet / 1 Pacer 3 Matadors ( 2 coupes ) / 1 Spirit / 1/2 Eagle 1/2 Jeep Wagoneer __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/