$450 isn't too too high for a running junker.. my buddy and I have seen them for almost $1000 because the guy knew what he wanted to do with it. But 360s are probably a better bet than the 401, especially if you, like you said, are gonna tear it down. Don't underestimate the power of a 360. -Dave ===== D.G. 713 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree