The close ratio T-10 (2.23 1st) with a 3.9:1 diff got you only 8.7:1 overall. The SR4s and T4s I've known usually have around 3.5 to 4:1 1st. Even 10:1 overall with these would mean a 2.5 to 2.86 differential in direct (not over) drive. AFAIK 'granny' gear 1sts were about 6:1. Ken Quoting Armand Eshleman <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > 3.73s would make first gear completely worthless in the T5, as you said > about the .8 overdrive, I've got the wrong T5 for that...first in the T5 is > 3.35. I think it would be like what we used to call a super granny low gear > in farm trucks, just to get it rolling, then shift into second. I believe > I'm going to have to rethink all of this and maybe go with a milder cam, one > that gets the cruise revs down around 2000 and likes it. > Anybody need a 272 H10 Cam dynamics cam for an AMC V-8?? > > Thanks everybody. > > Armand > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Energizer Cam > > > > " From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > " > > " > > " Hey guys, > > " > > " The specs I received from Crane on the 272 H10 cam don't look suitable > for > > " my uses. > > " With the T-5 transmission in fifth (.63 overdrive) and the rear end > gearing > > " (2.87-1) and 245/45-17 wheels/tires, the engine is turning about 2000 > rpm > > " at about 70 mph. I would have to drop down into 4th gear (1 to 1) to get > > " the revs up into the cruising operating range of 2600 rpm or more where > the > > " cam likes to be. Many of the local roads aren't 70 mph speed limits > either. > > " Many are 60 or 65 mph, which lowers the rpm more. I'm not so convinced I > > " want to do this cam swap........what do you guys think? > > > > yeah, without regearing it doesn't look so good. advancing the cam - > > as with a cloyes multi-position timing set - would bring the happy > > cruising revs down, but not 600rpm. with the 0.63 5th, you need 3.73s > > in the rear to do that. > > > > [btw, anyone know if jeep 3.07s or 3.31s will or won't fit car amc20s?] > > > > fwiw, there are both 0.72 [gm f-car] and 0.80 [brit ford, warner oem] > > 5th gears for the 2.95 t5. based on 2-3 and 3-4 splits, 0.8 is just > > about where 5th ought to be... and it'd put you right about on the > > button for cruising revs with your 2.87s. > > http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Borg-Warner-T5-ID-Tags.htm > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Andrew Hay the genius nature > > internet rambler is to see what all have seen > > adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought > > _______________________________________________ > > AMC-list mailing list > > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/09 > 6:16 AM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com