[AMC-list] disc brake q&a

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I'm putting disc brakes on the front of my american taken off a 72 ambo and one of my friends fond this article for me. Go to www.gremlinx.com/discbrake.htm
this is very good article for you to look at. it has all the parts you need from the doner car and what you should buy new, along with step by step instr.  Good luck  let me know what you think    








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oday's Topics:
   1. Re: 360 Pistons (Armand Eshleman)
  2. Re: 360 pistons (Jim Blair)
  3. pistons (Michael C Canada)
  4. Rockers needed for 67 Rogue (Rocky Lear)
  5. Re: Rockers needed for 67 Rogue (wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
  6. Fw: brake question/interchange (Eddie Stakes)
  7. check this out (non amc) (Eddie Stakes)
  8. Re: 360 pistons (Jim Shadwick)
  9. Re: 360 pistons (tom jennings)
 10. Re: Fw: brake question/interchange (Ken Ames)
 11. electric car (Garry Nordstrom)

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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:31:00 -0600
rom: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
o: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
ubject: Re: [AMC-list] 360 Pistons
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ruce,
I almost forgot to ask.
How might the piston ring grooves be set up??
With the more modern style rings?
Or back to the old stuff..
Armand 

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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:12:31 -0800
rom: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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ubject: Re: [AMC-list] 360 pistons
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They didn't make it to 2,000 miles running 5 degrees btdc at idle. Many Jeep 
wners have been infuriated with the motor when the piston couldn't take the 
ompression or timing
From: Ken Ames 
o: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" 
ubject: Re: [AMC-list] 360 pistons
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oo much timing advance perhaps. : )

en


uoting Jim Blair :

 I might get some to build a 360.  It because the detonation damage destroyed
 so many sets of Badger pistons I quit messing with 360s.
 
 From: "Steven F. Brueggeman" 
                     
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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:37:34 -0600
rom: "Michael C Canada" <gcanada@xxxxxxxxx>
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 I love hyperutectic pistons I have used them in my sons 360. I used pistons 
rom a sb Chebby 400. I dont know all the numbers but my machinist at my local 
ngine shop, said the compresion height was the same and the only machining 
eeded was increasing the pin dia. Then matching the bore dia. to the Chebby 
ize. He said I had enough block left to go to the next overbore size bigger. I 
ave used Them in 2 of my 401's AMC part, and they have been fine. I'd buy them, 
ood price and less machine shop cost.    
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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:08:38 -0500
rom: "Rocky Lear" <lear31@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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ubject: [AMC-list] Rockers needed for 67 Rogue
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Is there any place reproducing these? I also need a front left framerail for the 
ame car. Mine has a weak spot close to the sway bar mount and I need something 
o cut some patches out of.
lear31@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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ate: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:16:57 +0000
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Go over that left rail pretty carefully. I've seen the steering box mounts tear 
ut of Americans with rust in that area. 
  Usually six cylinder cars with leaky batteries.
  There is no reason you can't repair it though. Just needs to be done right. 
ou are going the right way by looking for a rail to replace it. I'd go to AJ at 
outh Texas AMC. He probably has a nice rust free rail. 
   The AMC vendors should have the rockers as they have been repro'd. 
 
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Is there any place reproducing these? I also need a front left framerail for the 
ame car. Mine has a weak spot close to the sway bar mount and I need something 
o cut some patches out of.
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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:27 -0600
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Dan below wants to add disc brakes to his 69 AMX and has found a setup off a 80 
oncord. If anyone can help him with this interchange questions please feel free 
o comment and thanks in advance to all who might, be sure to copy your reply to 
im also.
ddie Stakes
13.464.8825
ddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ww.planethoustonamx.com
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     will disc brakes off of an 80's concord fit on my 69 amx  
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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:07:17 -0600
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDU5BU_qSJU
Almost like a SX/4 on steroids.
ddie Stakes
13.464.8825
ddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ww.planethoustonamx.com

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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:29:55 -0700
rom: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx>
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I ran a set of Badger 343 FT pistons in a 360 race engine with lots of 
iming and never had a problem.....however I break a rod wen I over rev it.
Jim
ampa, ID

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ate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:39:42 -0800
rom: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
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ubject: Re: [AMC-list] 360 pistons
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Timing at speeds other than idle are what counts. Distribs can be screwed up
adly and it "runs OK" but overheats (not enough ignition lead) or eats
istons (too much ignition lead). Dead stock, low compression, lazy
amshafts, etc all that old factory stuff minimizes ignition timing
ensitivity. Start hopping it up and it gets all touchy.
Computerized management of this stuff is what's revolutionized engines and
et factories sell 500hp motors that meet/beat smog and drink crap gas!
Good computerization is like having Smokey Yunick under the hood24/7.


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 15:12, Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> They didn't make it to 2,000 miles running 5 degrees btdc at idle. Many
 Jeep owners have been infuriated with the motor when the piston couldn't
 take the compression or timing

 From: Ken Ames
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 Too much timing advance perhaps. : )

 Ken


 Quoting Jim Blair :

 > I might get some to build a 360.  It because the detonation damage
 destroyed
 > so many sets of Badger pistons I quit messing with 360s.
 >
 > From: "Steven F. Brueggeman"

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ate: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:14:25 -0700
rom: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
o: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC, Rambler,
   Nash,   Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Shudotta be a simple procedure. Take off everything including the spindles but
eave knuckles and put the Concord stuff on. Some say there is a residual
ressure valve at the master cylinder but on the 68 I did there was none. Just
eep an eye on the fluid level.
Ken

uoting Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Dan below wants to add disc brakes to his 69 AMX and has found a setup off a
 80 Concord. If anyone can help him with this interchange questions please
 feel free to comment and thanks in advance to all who might, be sure to copy
 your reply to him also.
 Eddie Stakes
 713.464.8825
 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 www.planethoustonamx.com
 
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ate: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:03:07 -0600
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Nick, you at the home base of AMC, I committed to chip on the matador, will 
ire up motorhome and venture from Minn to VA, hell just got back from  PA 
etting the Renagade for wife.  My Question to you is, it has been 
etermined that this is the last solargen, 491 miles.  Having purchased the 
atador, having the cj8, never titled or driven, I feel that the electric 
ar belongs to a special place.  I am rebuilding my garage which was toasted 
,lost everything, but I have a fear of the responsibility  of this car, 
nce you experience a fire, you do loose some peace of mind,,with that fear, 
 am wondering where it should be placed.  I am not concerned about money, 
t is the history that is more important.
o those on the list, if you have idea's, I judge non, only welcome  ideas 
n how this car should be protected
arry In Minn 

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