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Not sure if 73 Ambassador molding will fit a 71. I have a rust free, 73 Ambassador that had a minor engine fire while it was running in my driveway. Insurance company settled with me showing it a total loss. They were going to have it crushed, I bought it back from the insurance company not wanting to see it destroyed. I believe it was a fuel line broke near the filter that caused the fire. Minor damage to the wiring around the distributor and just burned a half dollar?size in the hood paint.?Car would make a pretty easy restoration project. Body rust free, interior very nice, chrome all good, newer radial tires, 70K on car. 

Having issues with my local ordinance officer, the car has to go. Will sell the complete car for $300. Located in Saint Joseph, MI (269) 876-6026? 




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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Anyone want a tank of bad gas? Free? Bring syphon!
      (Bruce Griffis)
   2. Re: Javelin wiring harness (tbsilvey@xxxxxxxx)
   3. Re: Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit running
      gear into a 1963 Breadbox) (Frank Swygert)
   4. Re: Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit  running
      gear into a 1963 Breadbox) (Bruce Griffis)
   5. Re: Anyone want a tank of bad gas? Free? Bring syphon! (Wrambler)
   6. My Two Aluminum Engine Date Codes (Joe Fulton)
   7. Re: Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit  running
      gear into a 1963 Breadbox) (russ hathaway)
   8. Re: Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit  running
      gear into a 1963 Breadbox) (tom jennings)
   9. date code stamping for al 196 (d stohler)
  10. date code stamping for al 196 (d stohler)
  11. date code stamping for al 196 (d stohler)
  12. Re: date code stamping for al 196 (Joe Fulton)
  13. carpet set (d stohler)
  14. Re: Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit  running
      gear into a 1963 Breadbox) (Sandwich Maker)
  15. Re: date code stamping for al 196 (Wrambler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:51:29 -0400
From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Anyone want a tank of bad gas? Free? Bring
    syphon!
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Got that nice, snazzy head back. All cleaned up. Each valve taken out
and cleaned. Bores honed. Gasket material removed. Looks real nice!

Grand total of 28 bucks. I was stupid not to have brought it back to begin with.


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:56:26 GMT
From: "tbsilvey@xxxxxxxx" <tbsilvey@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Javelin wiring harness
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>Do you still need a javelin harness

I haven't bought on yet, but will eventually need one. I have plenty of other 
parts on my project to work on first, but I wanted to do some home work on 
wiring ahead of time.
 
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:12:57 -0500
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83
    Spirit running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)
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The late model AMC six (199/232/258/4.0L) WILL NOT fit in a 58-63 American. It's 
4-5 inches too long. In the 64-65 it's a tight fit, but can be done -- you only 
need about two more inches in the engine compartment and a special short shaft 
water pump to do it -- but that engine compartment is 4-5 inches longer than the 
earlier American. You could probably fit an Iron Duke in there, but then you 
have to contend with left side clearance -- the "hump" has to come off, and even 
then the intake is likely too far over. The only way to fit a late AM
C six in is 
to toss the heater and set the engine back Pacer style. I've seen one guy do it, 
but no way I'd go to that much trouble -- may as well stick a small block V-8 in 
it, or a small V-6. Those also have hurdles -- the accessory drives, especially 
on the short V-6s, are way to wide. Easy enough to solve, but costly, using 
hot-rod narrow accessory mounts. 

The only more or less modern engine that is an easy fit is the Ford 200/250 six. 
Swap transmission with it. The late model 250 uses the SBF bolt pattern and 
could use an early model AOD or a five speed. I wouldn't use a 200 unless it was 
free/cheap -- not much more power than the 196, but parts availability is of 
course better. May as well go with the 250 and get the benefit of the extra 
inches. 

A fellow over on www.hotrodders.com (goes by "ramzoom") is working on two 
interesting early Rambler engine swaps (in 58-60 models, the same under the hood 
except for heater design -- placement is the same). One is a Mazda rotary from 
an RX-7 (twin turbos) and the other is a Quad-4. The Q4 intake curves back over 
the engine, so it might fit without cutting the left hump off. This guy plans on 
using side draft Webers, I think -- will have to check it out again. The rotary 
engine looks like it would fit without the turbos, but he ended up doing a 
custom Mustang II front end and cutting most of the fenderwells out for room for 
the turbos. NOT for the feint of heart, and some Rambler guys will find all the 
cutting disturbing, but he IS doing a real neat and professional job, not a 
hack! 

Here's the link to the Q4 swap: 
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rambler-american-engine-conversion-2-a-149011.html

Here's the twin-turbo rotary swap link:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rotary-rambler-update-146961.html

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:25:33 -0400
From: "Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>

I have decided that I'd like to consider 'dropping' my Spirit engine and 4
(or 5?) speed floor shifting tranny into my Breadbox convertible 'lock,
stock, a
nd barrel'; The 258 is one bulletproof, super tuff engine; reliable
yet cheap to run.with the 2bbl and it oughtta get fair gas milage with an
'overdrive' tranny.

-- 
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
(free download available!)




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:24:30 -0400
From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83
    Spirit  running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Frank, I'm hoping to hear some day of you putting that 2.3 liter turbo
4 from the Merkur into a breadbox. A turbocharged (intercooled?) 4
with a 5 speed would be pretty interesting.


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:47:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Anyone want a tank of bad gas? Free? Bring
    syphon!
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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That gas was more than six months old then.
I do it all the time, well I used to, with no ill effects.
Since we now own a boat, 2 PWCs, a lawn tractore, pressure washer and my 
American I buy the large containers of stabil and always have it on hand.

I've found that having it on hand saves forgetting to add it before storage. 
I especially do not want to take chances since the new boat has a 260hp injected 
SBC and I sure don't want to F that system up with bad gas!

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

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Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 6:28:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Anyone want a tank of bad gas? Free? Bring syphon!

You can also use a product called "Sta-Bil" available in auto parts stores. I 
use it in my motorcycle if I'm going to have it parked for more than a couple 
months, same with the lawn tractor. Just takes a few ounces. No need to run it 
all the time, just put in a few ounces before you park for a while. Run the 
engine a bit, enough to pull the mixture in the entire fuel system or you're not 
doing much good. A 10-15 minute drive is usually sufficient, and the sloshing 
around mixes it better too. Seems like the oil companies would add THAT to their 
additive packages instead of letting the fuel go bad, but most people don't let 
gas sit for 4-6 months (with the exception of lawn equipment). With the 
shortages the fuel you got from that station could have been older fuel too. I 
can tell you from experience mixing 6 month+ old fuel with fresh doesn't do much 
good! Tried that in my lawn mower, mixing 25% old, 75% new (not 50/50!!), and it 
STILL smoked, spit, and sputtered. To top it o
 ff I had to clean the carb a couple times before I got it straightened out! 


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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:14:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>

tom and myself had this same issue working on 2 years ago i think. if your car 
sat for a couple months, that gas could have done it. the gas now, has so much 
CRAP in it, it evapurates so fast, and leaves a nasty amber looking crap. take a 
clear bottle, or cup, put a little gas in it and leave it for just a few days. 
turns nasty amber like a medium beer.... nasty. i now make it a point of 
draining my fuel tanks when i have a car sitting for very long. caspers tank got 
pumped dry last fall when i parked her for the winter. my other rigs all have 
empty tanks also. but, you weigh the pros-cons. empty tank, condensation, full 
tank, tank ful
l of varnish crap, meaning sticking valves, causing bent pushrods, 
and in my case on my 65 287, EXPLODED hydraulic lifters.... take y our pick what 
you wanna deal with. either the car sat for a while and allowed that fuel to 
evapurate a little, and make the varnish, or the "cheapy station" had a tank of 
old fuel. and
 possibly picking up some from the old stuff in the fuel system. all i can say 
is HAVE FUN, and take it real easy. i also run seafoam when my rigs have been 
sitting for a little while. seems to work great for me. just dump a can in the 
tank. 

-- 
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
(free download available!)


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:08:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Amc-list] My Two Aluminum Engine Date Codes
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Here are my two engines:

http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/pacerman_01/misc%20AMC/?action=view&current=auction11127.jpg

http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/pacerman_01/misc%20AMC/?action=view&current=auction11126.jpg

Joe Fulton


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83
    Spirit  running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)
To: " drivers and fans.AMC/Rambler owners" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <699965.76329.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Frank; I disagree that the late model six won't fit into the breadbox Rambler. I 
have seen those years, and the earlier bathtubs, with AMC sixes, V8s, generic 
GMs, and on and on.
The latest abortion 
featured in a magazine was a Ferrari engine-tranny combo in 
a bath tub American wagon.
A real popular swap is a complete GM S-10 frame and engine-tranny swap into an 
early American, man you gotta be really into that combo for all the work 
involved. But there is one running around here that is really nice. He even 
airbrushed the side trim on the car. Looks nice but it is a garage queen.
Now the question remains; how determined are you and how much dough do you wanna 
toss at it.
The 64 is easy, comparably, and I think I pointed that out. I just used the 
existing 83 Xmembers and treated it like a 65. I used an electric fan to get 
away with that prob.
But to say it can't be done, come on!! I have seen Hemis in Fiats and 500 Caddys 
in Chevetts. If he is serious then he needs to take a serious look at the car, 
do some measuring and peek at his wallet. Then decide


      


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:32:57 -0700
From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83
    Spirit  running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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    <ba24c4150903202032t70fad61apc39e9556fd236e3b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

You're right Russ, it (anything!) can BE done. But unlike most AMC to AMC
swaps, it's a Big Deal. I have one (two) of 'em, and motors, and a tape
measure, and I can tell you for certain, ain't no way to shoe-horn one in
there without MAJOR sheet metal hackery. Frank says 5" but I think more like
9" more room needed.  The 195.6 is far shorter than normal, and the car is
literally built around it; the 232/258 is I think the longest US passenger
car engine when it was in production. Not a good pairing.

That's all. It could be done.  And that Ferrari, the motor was in the wagon
back! If it was in front, it woulda gone all the way to the back seat.

The early American is this small: with my palms gripping the steering wheel,
I ca
n EASILY put my fingers on the windshield glass. That's small!

(Oh man would I love to have an early american with a 232 in it. I think the
2.5L four-banger is the way to go. Yeah, it's missing two holes but the
other four are real AMC holes.)

I think the bias here is, we tend to think in terms of what we can wrench at
home and drive daily, so that lowers my threshold for extreme hacking.






On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Frank; I disagree that the late model six won't fit into the breadbox
> Rambler. I have seen those years, and the earlier bathtubs, with AMC sixes,
> V8s, generic GMs, and on and on.
> The latest abortion featured in a magazine was a Ferrari engine-tranny
> combo in a bath tub American wagon.
> A real popular swap is a complete GM S-10 frame and engine-tranny swap into
> an early American, man you gotta be really into that combo for all the work
> involved. But there is one running around here that is really nice. He even
> airbrushed the side trim on the car. Looks nice but it is a garage queen.
> Now the question remains; how determined are you and how much dough do you
> wanna toss at it.
> The 64 is easy, comparably, and I think I pointed that out. I just used the
> existing 83 Xmembers and treated it like a 65. I used an electric fan to get
> away with that prob.
> But to say it can't be done, come on!! I have seen Hemis in Fiats and 500
> Caddys in Chevetts. If he is serious then he needs to take a serious look at
> the car, do some measuring and peek at his wallet. Then decide
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 20 Ma
r 2009 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
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joe, thanks for the photos of where yours is. i will look on mine. it may just 
be covered in junk. 

i thought i had gone over this last nov when i pulled caspers motor about the 
crank butt... the early volcano wont work with the 63 later torque converter. 
casper has the volcano crank. flywheel sits over it. torque converter needs the 
flat mount to reach the flex plate. needs to sit almost completely up against 
bolt surface of the crank. i have 2 pre 63 cranks. the pilots are also bigger 
for the post 63, well, auto anyway, i understand from what i have read that post 
63 manuals are the same size pilot as the auto. would make sense to me... just 
one pilot to use. (rambler mentality even at the top???? lol)

dave stohler
www.picasaweb.google.com/das24rules


      


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
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ok, it was in the left front corner. i thought it should be there, just couldnt 
see it. i am not understanding this one. it looks like S501B28. any help? 

dave stohler
www.picasaweb.google.com/das24rules


      


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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i THINK it would be a 28 january 63 block? the way i am understanding. but what 
is the S for the first digit mean? anything? the B must be aluminum block 196

dave stohler
www.picasaweb.g
oogle.com/das24rules


      


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:46:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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The "S" could mean it's a service block.  The rest of the code translates to 
January 28, 1963 I think.  

Joe Fulton


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 PM
> ok, it was in the left front corner. i thought it should be
> there, just couldnt see it. i am not understanding this one.
> it looks like S501B28. any help? 
> 
> dave stohler
> www.picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
> 
> 
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:55:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Amc-list] carpet set
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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i have a 1962 rambler classic 2 door. i am looking for carpet for it. do you 
have any samples that could be sent? how much would shipping be to Brogan, Or. 
eastern side of the state. 97903 zip code. if you can send me some samples, i am 
looking for black, or grey colors. my address is 5600 John Day Hwy, Brogan, Or. 
97903. please let me know if you can send samples. thanks for your time. 

dave stohler
www.picasaweb.google.com/das24rules


      


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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:25:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into e
arlier body...(83
    Spirit  running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200903211325.n2LDPlb28394@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
" 
" []
" 
" The only more or less modern engine that is an easy fit is the
" Ford 200/250 six.  Swap transmission with it.  The late model 250
" uses the SBF bolt pattern and could use an early model AOD or a
" five speed.  I wouldn't use a 200 unless it was free/cheap -- not
" much more power than the 196, but parts availability is of course
" better.  May as well go with the 250 and get the benefit of the
" extra inches.

nb. all 250s have the sbf pattern.  very late 200s do too, but missing
the center top bolt because they're so low; most have a small pattern
shared with the 170 and taking only a 9"-ish clutch.  amc content:
stock bellhousings take the ford-version t96 and t150 toploader; i
don't think there was ever one for the sr4/t4/t5 but there certainly
are adapters, courtesy of the mustang fraternity.

up to about '65, the 144/170/200 had 4 mains like the 196, 7 in later
170/200.  the 250 always had 7.

the stock 200 probably isn't up on the ohv 196 for power, but it
weighs a whole lot less; i wouldn't wonder if it was more than 100
lbs - '60s tech vs. '30s.  and while the stock head with cast-in
intake is comparable, there's the cool aussie/argentinian ford 12-port
head, the cooler aussie crossflow redesign, and the coolest aussie
ohc/efi re-redesign.  the 12-port is a straight swap though its
matching 2bbl intake is way too wide for an early american; the
crossflow can be adapted to north american blocks with a little work,
similar to a 4.0 head on early 258s.  btw the ohc is based on the 250
but shrunk a bit down to 4.0L.

i think one could adapt the efi from a late 300 to the 250 or 200
without much problem.  you'd have to start with the 12-port or
crossflow heads and fab an intake, but you'd have to fab an intake
anyways for the narrow american - a swoopy 300 style would look and
fit well!  scaling the injectors 
to the smaller engine isn't hard and
there must be an appropriate throttlebody from some ford v6.
--
another short modern straight six is the mopar slant, but leaned over
as it is - 30* - it's not very narrow.  trannies used with it are
afaik all new process until the late '70s when mopar also used the
t150, but with a mopar bolt pattern.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:42:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
To: piper pa20 <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>,    "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers
    and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Yes, I would agree that is likely a service block.
The trans I pulled and sold from my 69 American had a tag code of S-42.
Instead of the standard Borg automatic codes everyone quotes.

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

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From: "Joe Fulton" <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:46:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196


The "S" could mean it's a service block.  The rest of the code translates to 
January 28, 1963 I think.  

Joe Fulton


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] date code stamping for al 196
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, March 2
0, 2009, 10:42 PM
> ok, it was in the left front corner. i thought it should be
> there, just couldnt see it. i am not understanding this one.
> it looks like S501B28. any help? 
> 
> dave stohler
> www.picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
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