Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!

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I'll be looking way hard at my 32y's when I get around to it!
I sure don't anticipate finding out you are correct :)

Good news today!
The local Pain clinic has approved testing me for viability for the Neurotransmitter watchamacallitt.
So, I have to pass a psych test, hmmm might fail that.... :) 
Then they do an initial placement of a pair of leads on my spinal cord in my neck, tape them down and wire them up to a belt pack. I get to test drive it for 7-10 days. If it works and there are no funky issues they do a pacemaker type implant with a wireless controller that allows me to turn it up, down or off. Recharges thru the skin! Device lasts about 9 years!  No more scanners at airports, No chance I can have a pacemaker later if needed. I'll have to pick one or the other should that need arise!

Rambler content.
I'll be able to work on my stuff!
Gee, I really hope so anyway!!!

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Greetings again..
> Oh, yeah...absolutely right Frank...EyeCandy was what the brochures were
> printed for and with!
> The engines are little pieces of artwork and manifest absolutely nothing
> pursuant to 'valid' when compared to 'under the hood' of the real things...
> Whereever did they get THOSE colors??  I've seen purple, blue, yellow, etc,
> etc...and it was one of my first lessons...do NOT use the brochures for
> historical reference beyond specs...and even those 'photographs' are a mite
> deceiving.
> I found that in a lot of cases there aren't photos at all, but 'renderings'
> which stretch, shrink, heightening, lowering, making the 'subject' more
> appealing, albeit inaccurate!
> The colors of the engines and trannys are beyond funny!  And absolutely NOT
> to be used as documentation for your restoration...unless, of course, you've
> a sense of humor...
> 
> Again, Frank, I've been 'playing' this stuff for quite some time...and I
> actually recall going to dealers as a kid (ok, while 'younger') and paying
> careful heed to what the underhoods looked like...
> Things like...
> What color was where?
> Where does 'body color' go, and where does 'black' begin...and which
> black...flat, semi-gloss, or gloss??
> What was painted and what was not?
> What colors went where?
> What,  if anything, did the colors dictate (like engine size, etc)..
> So when my 'restoration' years began, the first dictate of the job was to
> discover what 'was original' to the unit at hand...includeing type of paint,
> quality of install (ie, mottling of metallic colors, runs in the paint,
> paint-overs (as in painting over dirt, etc)...
> This isn't such a simple job, as the chemicals used in removing the 'yuck'
> can alter the color...so that being said, yuck removal was a slow
> job...sometimes the paint would come right off with the yuck...(a lot of
> times,by the way since no primers were used under the hood!).
> Whenever I did this, I marked or photographed these for documentation
> purposes...
> In doing so, after a while it becomes quite clear what is 'original' and
> what is 'afterwards'...
> I have found odd colors in odd places...
> Differential carriers INSIDE are a reddish-brick color..and some outside as
> well (don't ask me which at the moment..I am getting old and can't remember
> EVERYTHING!)  The undercarriage of Nash in '54 was an ugly as hell green.
> (why?)  Ditto the underside of the Fulton Visor...'KellyGreen' or something
> like it.  Ugly!!  I never figured out why 'almond' for the big 6...nor did I
> ever figure out why Red valve covers over a deep gray (almost metallic)
> block (on the early '60s Rambler 10 series (known as 'Rambler Six', NOT '01'
> which was American which engines were 'universal Gray')...
> 
> Well, I have said enough to get me into trouble for a while...so off to the
> shovel again I go...
> 
> Jj
> 
> (Oh, I DO want verify or disprove on the 327 engine colors.  So...get out
> the parts cleaners folks and ...well, you know).
> 
> By the way...Transmission color was engine color...and the engine color thru
> the trannys from the above cars followed; orange on HighCompression,
> RampartRed on Lo (ok, Frank, 'Normal')..
> 
> I wish I knew where the photos were of the jobs spoken above, but...well,
> like I said, I don't remember Everything!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Frank Swygert
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:51 PM
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!
> 
> Jerijan, all the notes I have from way back only state that the 327 was RED
> -- no difference between hi and low compression (or rather high and "normal"
> compression). WHERE did you get the info that the hi-comp was a different
> color? Don't say "under the hood of a car" unless you know 100% that it was
> factory -- too many places just paint everything whatever color most of the
> engines they rebuild are painted, or as in my case, whatever they think will
> look good. Now if you have a factory color photo, that's different! 
> 
> The sales brochures and show displays, by the way, aren't the correct
> colors. I've seen YELLOW AMC sixes in brochures and new car show displays --
> those are just "eye candy" colors, not what was used (I'm sure you know that
> Jj, as most of the regulars here, but some may not). 
> 
> ---------------
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:52:49 -0500
> From: "Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> If your engine is "Ramparts Red" (or Rambler Red), and it is original to
> that car, then it IS a 327 LO compression (ie, two bbl).  The HiComp number
> was more Orange (as in, umm, well, ChevyOrange)...ChevyOrange in fact is the
> nearest color to that I've seen, and it's what I've used to recolor the
> engines (in 58 up).
> Jj
> 
> -- 
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
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> (free download available!)
> 
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