Re: [Amc-list] Saving for a 196 rebuild (maybe)

[Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yep.  I recently had a 195.6 block bored from .040 oversize to .060 oversize and re-used a set of low mileage .060 oversize pistons and rods from another engine.  I did break the ring land on one piston while trying to remove a stuck ring.  I replaced that piston with a new one from Kanter Auto Products for about $60.  I have heard that .080 oversize pistons are available from Egge Machine but have not confirmed that.  I do have an extra .060 block which will need to be bored to .080 oversize for reuse if anyone wants it for the cost of shipping.

Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA


--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Saving for a 196 rebuild (maybe)
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:53 AM
> A small nick that does not protude will do next to nothing
> to compression or cause oil use above normal.
>   The rings pass over it so quickly very little pressure
> bleeds out.
> If it is a gouge or sctratch that is deeper and runs
> vertically, then it is time for a rebuild.
>    Your overbore size is limited only by your imagination
> and the size pistons you can find!
> Those old beasites got thick walls!  .080" is not
> sweat at all, if you can find pistons!
> Most all that seems to be left run in the .060" range.
>   Joe Fulton just did some time looking for .080" and
> went to another block to allow him to use the .060"
> pistons he had.
> 
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Bruce Griffis"
> <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Got the head back today. Man, it looks good! It was
> ready a week ago,
> > but I wasn't able to get over to the machine shop.
> I need to take a
> > picture. Milled head, hardened valves seats, new
> intake and exhaust
> > valves. Just a really good job.
> > 
> > While the head was off, I checked the cylinder walls.
> Most are in good
> > shape, but one has a very small nick or gouge in it.
> Can't really see
> > it very well, but I can feel it when running my hand
> in the cylinder.
> > Not good.
> > 
> > Since it was running okay, just blowing white smoke
> from coolant, I'm
> > thinking of sewing it up and driving it. But - I know
> that if I can
> > feel a small nick, the piston rings will definately
> "notice" it, too,
> > and a small amount of damage can turn into a large
> amount pretty
> > quickly.
> > 
> > Time to save up for some engine work. Not sure if it
> could be honed
> > out, or if I would need to get it bored .030 over.
> Those of you that
> > have bored out a 195.6 OHV, what is a general ballpark
> for boring it
> > and going to oversize pistons? I need to figure out
> how much to put
> > away. While it might work for a while (if I keep the
> revs down and the
> > oil clean), it will need attention soon. Hopefully not
> sooner than my
> > wallet can recover.
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