Re: [Amc-list] 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car???

[javelindreams <javelindreams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Isn't the '57 considered by many to be AMC's contribution to the "first
muscle car" competition? I don't remember the specs, but I do remember it
was pretty hot for its day and I believe it had the 327.

Javelindreams

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>   1. 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car??? (Thomas Garner)
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>   3. Not Mine.  This one deserves a new home. (Joe Fulton)
>   4. Re: 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car??? (Tom Jennings)
>   5. eagle 3:54 rear wanted still (Eddie Stakes)
>   6. Starting HEI on the ground (Jesse)
>   7. Re: Interesting 1971 Jav/AMX on eBay (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>   8. Re: 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car??? (Bruce Griffis)
>   9. AMC Hub Cap Question (Richard Estermyer)
>  10. Re: Starting an HEI engine on the ground (Jim Blair)
>  11. Re: Manual trans Bellhousing needed (Jim Blair)
>  12. Re: A/C on a 64 Classic (Matt Haas)
>  13. Anyone bringing swap N trade AMC pic CDs to Cecil County?
>      (Jerry Casper)
>  14. Re: Interesting 1971 Jav/AMX on eBay (Frank Swygert)
>  15. Dexron (or whatever it is these days) maximum operating
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:05:17 -0700
> From: "Thomas Garner" <Tgarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car???
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> I ran across Ebay Item number 170248201436 and HAD to have a look.
>
> It claims this car is known as the FIRST un-official muscle car.
>
> I assume this is an Ambassador if it came with the 327 right? I didn't
> think the Classic came with a V-8 option until the Typhoon in 64? (I'm
> asking not stating)
>
>  Was this considered the first Muscle Car?? Really?? Seriously? A Rambler?
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car???
> To: Tgarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,     "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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> Classics were offered with the V8 beginning during the
> 1963 Model year, not at the beginning of the model
> year.
>
> Regards,
> Joe Fulton
>
> --- Thomas Garner <Tgarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I ran across Ebay Item number 170248201436 and HAD
> > to have a look.
> >
> > It claims this car is known as the FIRST un-official
> > muscle car.
> >
> > I assume this is an Ambassador if it came with the
> > 327 right? I didn't think the Classic came with a
> > V-8 option until the Typhoon in 64? (I'm asking not
> > stating)
> >
> >  Was this considered the first Muscle Car?? Really??
> > Seriously? A Rambler?
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] Not Mine.  This one deserves a new home.
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> I bet it's gone already, but I'd be interested if I
> had room.
>
> http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/car/779603328.html
>
> Joe Fulton
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:46:57 -0700
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car???
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Thomas Garner wrote:
>
> >  Was this considered the first Muscle Car?? Really?? Seriously? A
> Rambler?
>
> No, that car was not the "first muscle car". By most accounts, the first
> muscle car -- if defined as the biggest engine available in the mid-size
> chassis -- was the 1957 Rambler Rebel. Yup, a Rambler. Just not the one
> on eBay :-)
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:25:28 -0500
> From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] eagle 3:54 rear wanted still
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> Hi everyone, still looking for a AMC Eagle 80-88 3:54 rear end.....end to
> end....for my 81 Eagle wagon, 151/4cyl, 4spd. I have had several close
> calls
> in 4 months, there is a SX/4 being parted out in John's Auto Salvage in
> Seguin if anyone interested, unfortunately is missing a axle or I would
> have
> bought that rear. Another salvage yard in New Jersey 'had' a SX/4 but had
> crushed it a few weeks before I called. Yet another, (thanks Greg!) was a
> complete rear end for $150 in WA state, however guy was unwilling to throw
> it on wooden palate where my FedEx would have handled rest so that fell
> thru
> also. So now 4 months later, fixing to possibly just drag my 81 Eagle wagon
> back home as it has been at mechanic's shop since the rear went out about 4
> months ago.
>
> I just went on Eagle's Nest forum but didn't see anyone parting out a Eagle
> or SX4 with a 3:54 in it, and ironically in a google search for 'amc eagle
> 3:54 rear end' a old ad of mine comes up #1 not that it has helped me
> locate
> a rear!
>
> So everyone keep their eyes open and spread the word, as still looking and
> would hate to drag this neat little car home still busted!
> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> email volume HEAVY reply
> currently 8-19 days, just call!
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] Starting HEI on the ground
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: das24rules@xxxxxxxxx
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> Thanks for the info.  I have definetly seen some disastrous results from
> people not taking precautions against the toque... especially when they
> don't have the fan on!  SOme engines can be started without a bellhousing,
> but OOOHHH that flywheel!
>
> I actually have the front third of an FSJ frame with a set each of V8 and
> I-6 frame horns I can interchange and a tranny mount if I want to start with
> a trans.  It takes up way too much room, but it is stable, rolls around and
> keeps things easily within reach!  I have a small rad and battery box, MC
> Ign Module and wiring to hook up mid 70-80's AMC's.
>
> I figured the HEI would just need a wire to the Batt, but wanted to be
> sure.  I should video one of these events... the neighbors love it when I
> don't use any mufflers in teh Summmer... I think!  (Wintertime I stick on a
> short exhaust so that reversion won't hurt valves!)
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] Starting an HEI engine on the ground
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> after rebuilding an engine, i usually start it on the stand before
> installation. these engines are pretty easy to fire like you want. make sure
> you have it secured so it does not twist around on you. i usually have them
> on the engine stand, and then also have a chain mounted in atleast 2 points
> on the motor, with my hoist just barely tight on the chains.
>
> to fire the engine, you will need to hook up the battery + to the starter,
> - to a bolt on the block. have you a jumper wire to the "energize" post on
> the starter to strike on the + terminal on the battery. you will need a wire
> running from the + terminal on the bat to the energize wire on the dizzy.
> the hei has the coil mounted on top of the dizzy. i have seen some that need
> another wire going to the coil. others are powered off just 1 wire going
> into it. depends on the dizzy how many wires there are. some have a ground
> wire you also need to hook up.
>
> my suggestion, if the engine has not run in a while, leave the power wire
> to the dizzy unhooked, and crank the engine for a minute or so to get oil
> circulating around in it before firing. if availible, electric carburated
> fuel pumps (5-6or so psi) work GREAT for these types of test firings.
>
> if one has had much experience doing this type of thing, it can be running
> in just minutes if everything is availible.
>
> main thing, just make sure it is secure. would be a nasty deal if it was
> just sitting on an old tire like a lot of people do, fire it up, and the
> torque just flops it right over and tears things up, oil everywhere ect.
> also, either do not run it long with no water, or, as i have done before
> also, pop out the t-stat, and run a garden hose to the water pump. they will
> head up real quick with no water.
>
> dave stohler
> my rambler pics@
> http://picasaweb.google.com/das24rules
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:26:02 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Interesting 1971 Jav/AMX on eBay
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> Off topic reply but similar specs.
> I once parted out a rotted 71 Torino 2dr.
> 315C, four barrel, four speed car, with A/C. Drum brakes, non P/S, non B/B!
> Not even a radio!
> Second owner b title Pa car. Told the story.
> Original owner was a Gas station rep, forget the company so he got free
> fuel.
> He wanted A/C for his summer travels, but did most of his driving on the
> highway and did not like the twitchy P/S he remembered from the 50's-60's.
> He had no use for music or those new fangled power disc brakes either!
>   Would have been a cool car to save, but even back in 1980 it was just too
> far gone in the floors and firewall, frame rail sections.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: <rodbrundage@xxxxxxx>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AMC-Javelin-AMX-1971-AMC-American-Motors-Javelin-
> >
> AMX-71-AMX_W0QQitemZ120291080155QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120291080155&_trkparms=3
> > 9%3A1|65%3A3&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1318
> >
> > This car is very interesting, as it's a 3-speed AMX but apparently with a
> go-pac
> > functional cowl induction.  Furthermore, it's an A/C car but with
> non-power
> > brakes or steering.  Didn't power brakes/steering and a 4-speed come as
> standard
> > on a Go-pac AMX in 1971?
> >
> > I also noted the squared-off shifter boot section on the center console.
>  I've
> > seen a few pictures before of squared boot sections vs. the oval (like
> mine is
> > on my '71 Jav AMX), but now am guessing a squared one means 3-speed.
> >
> > Anyway, this looks like a nice car from the pictures but has zero bids at
> the
> > $20,000 minimum reserve.  Almost worth it just for the uniqueness of
> these
> > options.
> >
> > In looking at eBay auction items in general for AMX's, most of them have
> zero
> > bids--is this a sign of the times given the current slowdown in the
> economy?
> >
> > Rod in Virginia
> >
> > P.S.  My '71 AMX made the "Reader's Rides" section of the September issue
> of
> > Muscle Car Enthusiast, so check it out!
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:54:37 -0400
> From: "Bruce Griffis" <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 1963 AMC Rambler Muscle Car???
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> While I like Ramblers, I'd have to consider the 1949 Olds Rocket 88.
> The '57 Rambler Rebel is cool, but I don't consider it the first.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Thomas Garner wrote:
> >
> >>  Was this considered the first Muscle Car?? Really?? Seriously? A
> Rambler?
> >
> > No, that car was not the "first muscle car". By most accounts, the first
> > muscle car -- if defined as the biggest engine available in the mid-size
> > chassis -- was the 1957 Rambler Rebel. Yup, a Rambler. Just not the one
> > on eBay :-)
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:14:34 -0400
> From: Richard Estermyer <javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] AMC Hub Cap Question
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> Hey Group,
> We were workin on the Gremlin and Spirit patch today pulling parts and
> cleaned out a couple cars of hub caps.  We have one set that it a turbine
> w/volcano caps in the center (e-mail for pic).  These look like the ones
> that were on my 75 Matador.  However the Mats, were the rubber ones that
> were directly attached to the stock steel wheels.  Does anyone know how
> these hub caps are to attach to the wheels.  It looks like it would need
> washers as the holes of the cap are slightly larger than the bolts and do
> not fit snugly, and then you have the plastic is not that thick.  Any
> thoughts?
>
> I added a couple pics to the website of the hibernating Gremlins in the
> summertime and the brush around that claims them.  We did get out there
> today and located some wanted parts.  A lot more to go.
>
> Any suggestions on packing up larger items to ship, fenders, windshields,
> door glass etc.  I believe that DHL and Greyhound are the cheaper way to go
> for larger items.  Just want to make sure I pac things safely enough to
> withstand the trip.  THANKS!Blessings,Richard Richard Estermyer
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:38:49 -0700
> From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Starting an HEI engine on the ground
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> You can. I do it with a points dist, an empty 727 case and starter (just
> don't quick rev it as the AMC V8 often has the ability to flip itself from
> torque!)
>
>
> Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> From: Jesse
> Subject: [Amc-list] Starting an HEI engine on the ground
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Hey, I have  a 360 that I want to test fire before I get it on a project.
>  I have an HEI and am wondering what the simplest way to hook up to hook it
> up to rain.
>
> Can I hook up to a battery with the HEI and crank until it fires?
>
> I normally set up the whole solenoid, with MC ECM and fire, but this HEI
> could make it all so simple!
>
> Just wondering while  I am traveling in KS... want to fire it up this
> weekend.
>
> Have a great weekend,
>
> Jesse
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:49:15 -0700
> From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Manual trans Bellhousing needed
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> 1980 is when Buick 2.8L was made with the narrow pattern. I figure @late
> '82 the Chev dookie switched over. Right when AMC came out with their 4 cyl.
> If anyone has the Chev SBC pattern 904 case, I'll swap for the AMC/60 degree
> Buick version (I also have the flexplate for the 4 cyl with Renix TBI ring
> for sale)
>
>   I figure the 904 will suck some power from the Audi motor, but with a
> turbo it should be better. I'm checking to see what else in the way of trans
> were bolted to the 2.0L motor.
>
> Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Manual trans Bellhousing needed
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
>
> " From: Jim Blair
> "
> "
> " Be careful of the year! They changed the dookie to V6 (like the 2.8L)
> " @80! If he wanted to put an AMC 6 ('71 up) in front of that trans, I
> " have all the parts, including the flywheel, clutch and maybe the
> " starter! (I have what's left of the 4x4 T5 for parts too. It needs
> " some synchros and maybe more)
>
> i think it was more like '83/4, as all the amc ones had the big-chev
> pattern.  a word to the wise though.
>
> btw they changed the buick v6 from the b-o-p to the small v6 pattern
> about the same time as well.
>
> " From: imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx
> "
> " Have a friend, non AMC, that received a 4sp T4 from a Spirit.  He is
> wanting
> " to attach to a 250 Chev (straight 6).  He wants confirmation that the
> Iron
> " Duke pattern would be the same as the 250, and location of the actual
> bell if
> " anyone knows of one..  Thanks in advance for info, will pass along info
> if
> " anyone has any to share...  FYI, fella is in SD for shipping purposes....
> --
> ps jim, i was thinking of your dj with the audi 2.0 - an auto right,
> tf904?  big, power-sucking box for such a little mill.  afaik the 924
> had a transaxle despite its front engine, but i wonder what audi used
> with it in the '70s?  might've been an export-model bw35...
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:58:52 -0400
> From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A/C on a 64 Classic
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <489CF9DC.2060402@xxxxxxx>
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> Vintage Aire's catalog talks about the power various compressors use.
> It's been a long time since I looked for it but from what I recall, the
> York/Tecumseh ones are the worst (25+ HP and they also vibrate a lot)
> and the Sanden are the best (5-6 HP, about like a power steering pump).
> The Fridgidaire units GM used are a little worse than the Sanden (one is
> better than the other but I don't recall if it's the radial or axial
> pump) but they did not recommend replacing one of those with a Sanden
> type since the difference is pretty small.
>
> In any case, what you need depends on what you car has already. If you
> have power steering, you just need the compressor mounting brackets
> (there may be a brace as well). If you don't have power steering, you'll
>  also need the idler and crank pulleys. You'll also need a battery tray
> from a V8 or A/C equipped and a new positive battery cable car since the
> battery switches sides to make room for the compressor.
>
> When looking for brackets, you need to do some research. The intake
> manifold changed several times and each change usually resulted in new
> brackets.
>
> Matt
>
> On 8/3/2008 4:51 PM, farna@xxxxxxx spouted this sage advice:
> <snip>
> > AC will rob some power, but it shouldn't be too bad. If you feel the
> power is marginal now you'll notice the difference, but if you're happy with
> the power you have I doubt you'll notice -- maybe on take-off, but you can
> get a vacuum switch that cuts the compressor out under load. My 97 Volvo 960
> had such a switch. It's a normally open switch with a vacuum diaphragm on
> it. When the engine is producing lots of vacuum (at idle or cruise) the
> switch is closed, but when vacuum drops below around 10" it opens and cuts
> power to the compressor.
> >
> > --------------
> > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:16:27 -0700
> > From: "Thomas Garner" <Tgarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Did the 64 Classic with 232 engine have A/C as an option? Does A/C rob it
> of
> > much power if I put it on mine?
> --
> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com
> 1967 Rambler American wagon
> 1968 Rambler American sedan
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:58:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] Anyone bringing swap N trade AMC pic CDs to Cecil
>        County?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: AMC <amc-delmarva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>  I got no response on my proposal a few weeks ago to swap AMC pictures on
> CDs, but I'm still planning on bringing 5 of my own CD's of pics, in case
> anyone is interested in swapping CDs and brings some. I found out my 2006
> Cecil County drag movie files were around 350 Mb's, so almost half of the
> pics on the CD, not 10%, are mine personally. :)
>
>  Anyway, my name is Jerry Casper, Potomac Rambler Club member, should be
> wearing a white Penske Shirt with the 2nd Gen NASCAR Matador on it in all
> it's glory. SN and email name is GremlinGTs. Hopefully I'll meet someone who
> has pictures on a CD to exchange. I"ll also have my green R/C Gremlin
> running around ( I hope! Last time I brought it, it didnt' work, didnt' have
> a screwdriver to check the battery, and the wire was loose when I got home.
> Grr!) So, see ya there....
>
> Jerry Casper
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:15:39 -0400
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Interesting 1971 Jav/AMX on eBay
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <489CFDCB.6020305@xxxxxxx>
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>
> I checked the VIN from the door sticker photo. It is indeed an AMX with
> three speed floor shift. I'm not so much up on Javelins to know if the
> Go-Pac required any specific items, but it's quite possible that it's not a
> factory Go-Pak car, but a "standard" AMX that had a functional cowl hood
> added later or by a dealer. One couldn't typically order some options
> outside a package, but if the dealer was personally well known or just
> creative, the parts could be ordered and installed at the dealership,
> creating odd combos.
>
> $20K is tough for a Javelin AMX without all the top options, including a
> 401. Auto or four speed is a toss-up -- depends on whether you're collecting
> (four speed) or driving (auto most often preferred), or just driver/owner
> preference. It's not a two seater! Those bring around $20K for nice examples
> even if they aren't 100% original/stock. This car *might* be worth $20K, or
> close to it, but it's too high for a starting bid. A lower start (say $10K)
> with a $20K reserve would bring more interest.
>
> -------------
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:36:23 -0700
> From: <rodbrundage@xxxxxxx>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AMC-Javelin-AMX-1971-AMC-American-Motors-Javelin-AMX-71-AMX_W0QQitemZ120291080155QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120291080155&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A3&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1318
>
> This car is very interesting, as it's a 3-speed AMX but apparently with a
> go-pac
> functional cowl induction.  Furthermore, it's an A/C car but with non-power
> brakes or steering.  Didn't power brakes/steering and a 4-speed come as
> standard on a Go-pac AMX in 1971?
>
> I also noted the squared-off shifter boot section on the center console.
>  I've seen a few pictures before of squared boot sections vs. the oval (like
> mine is on my '71 Jav AMX), but now am guessing a squared one means 3-speed.
>
> Anyway, this looks like a nice car from the pictures but has zero bids at
> the $20,000 minimum reserve.  Almost worth it just for the uniqueness of
> these options.
>
> --
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:38:25 -0700
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] Dexron (or whatever it is these days) maximum
>        operating       temperature?
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <489DD611.8020502@xxxxxxx>
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>
> I've been searching high and low (OK, google) for recommended auto trans
> operating temperatures and I'll be damned if I can find anything. I
> thought this would be easy and obvious, but all I get is AMSoil ads.
>
> I finally (20 years late) stuck a temp gauge on my air-cooled BW m35
> (horizontal casting flange above the pan, siliconed on and insulated
> with a neoprene-foam blanket, best I coudl come up with short of taking
> the pan down) (yeah next time) and I just can't find a temperature chart
> or data.
>
> Anyone have this data?
>
>
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