Re: [Amc-list] Shroud for 70 Javelin?

["Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris,

I have a 70 Javelin with the 304, non A/C. It did not come with a shroud
either. I've had it since 1972, and I'm the second owner.
Your problem is perplexing because the radiator in my Javelin is only a two
row and it has at least two tubes sealed off because they started leaking,
and I've never had overheating trouble with my Javelin. I drive it in 95
degree heat all the time.
Now to your problem.
If your engine is that new, it may just need to get broken in and freed up
by driving it some.
you said "Radiator was cleaned professionally" are you 100% sure of that.
Maybe they plugged it up worse ! check it out.
The water pump must be somewhat functional or you'd be experiencing severe
problems.
Thermostat should be OK if it only overheats during idle. Take it out
completely and drive the car. see what happens. At least you'll know if
that's the culprit.
Lastly, I think shrouds from a lot of AMC's will fit your Javelin. I have
one from a 1979 304 Spirit, and although I haven't actually tried to fit it
into the Javelin, it looks like it should fit. The radiator from the Spirit
looks the same as the Javelin radiator. It looks like a spacer may not be
needed and the fan would end up in the correct spot.

Armand


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Peters" <cpeters1@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: [Amc-list] Shroud for 70 Javelin?


> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I had my 70 304 rebuilt for my Javelin a few years ago, and have finally
> gotten around to driving it some.
>
> It seems to overheat at idle.  Radiator was cleaned professionally.
> Thermostat is new.  Water pump is old
>
> but does not leak.  My car had no AC, and never had a shroud (at least
when
> I got it in 1982).  It never had
>
> a heating problem before the rebuild, and I drove the car hard in hot
> Florida for years.  If I run on the highway,
>
> it seems to keep a steady temp.  When I come off it seems to immediately
> start to heat up.  If I idle for a
>
> prolonged time it will keep getting hotter.  It has never seriously boiled
> over, but does pee some out after
>
> I stop, and one time with some slower driving it did pee enough out that I
> had to add water (it was below the tubes).
>
>
>
> The guy who built the engine feels there is nothing that was done to the
> engine to cause heating, especially
>
> on a 304.  He is recommending I add a shroud.  He says I need to get a
> matched shroud, fan and spacer.
>
> And I thought finding a shroud would be hard, now I have to find all three
> pieces.   Of course I could get a
>
> new radiator, a new thermostat and a new water pump first.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any recommendations on where to start???
>
>
>
> Chris Peters
>
> http://www.thepetersgarage.com
>
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