Re: [Amc-list] corner carving rear drive cars

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

You can run some compromises.
Mine runs poly bushings in the arms.
Rubber strut bushings.
low pressure gas shocks
205/60/15's
V8 Springs
No swaybars at all.
Out back all leaves are doubled except main and the last small one with 1.5'" lowering blocks.
way old hydraulic shocks.
255/60/15's

Car handles well, it's tight and can be driven on rough roads within reason.

There are ways to compromise and reach a happy medium for a street car.
If it weren't for the rust belt and cheap classic car insurance, I'd not be bothered to drive it daily.
it rides comparably to our 98 Altima!
if not slightly better!
--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

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From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Jim,
> the first thing that must be done and is relatively affordable is replace
> all the bushings front and rear with poly bushings or aluminum bushings.
> There's lots of slop in those rubber bushings. The gawd awful thing about
> this is the AMC suspension (or any make for that matter) will be intolerable
> on the average bull crap bumpy road. The rough ride and racket from loose
> trim etc. will drive you nuts. The front suspension won't like to be allowed
> to go to full droop, because of the additional stress placed on the strut
> rods when drooping. this could be disastrous to the strut rods if they are
> marginal at all. However the car will handle better to begin with,
> especially with the correct alignment. If you add the 1-1/8 diameter front
> sway bar and the 3/4 rear sway bar you'll see even more improvement.
> After you out grow that set up a full on custom designed and engineered
> suspension is necessary. I think Penske had the AMC figured out rather well
> for the early 70s but with today's technology and computer aided engineering
> and drawing I'm sure a good suspension engineer could whip out something
> very impressive. Besides I think all of Penskes secrets are either gone or
> no one wants to share them with us, I've been asking and searching to no
> avail.
> Nick Alfano was working on something special to do with AMC suspension, was
> that a rack and pinion steering kit?? Where did that idea go to??
> 
> Armand
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] corner carving rear drive cars
> 
> 
> Thanks for that! I've been looking for something to help me sort out the
> "loose" feeling in my '82. Steering is too twitchy for my liking and the
> rear gets too out of synche (like I have rear steer that isn't controlled)
> I'm thinking maybe new rear spring bushings may help. I don't see any leaves
> broken, but it almost feels like it. (I do tend to carry more stuff than I
> should, but it still feels almost as bad empty) My '87 MJ with 6" of lift
> handles far tighter, especially in the corners like I-405 SB to I-520 EB
> where the corner speed is posted at 15 mph. The Jeep sleds through the
> corner on bald tires (2wd) at 40, even in the rain. Spirit feels like it's
> going to slide off the road at 20 on the same corner (and it's not tire
> traction as they are brand new Michelins. It's all suspension slop)
> 
> Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] corner carving rear drive cars
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> I really don't want to beat a dead horse over this one, but I thought it so
> ironic that right after posting a response to Tom's comments about front
> wheel drive handling and his comments about not getting his AMCs to work
> good on a track, that an article shows up in the June issue of Hemmings
> Muscle Machines all about a guy named Earl Daugharthy and his son Dean from
> Hinckley, OH who have been campaigning an 81 AMC Spirit, that routinely
> beats all opposition, including non turbo'ed Porches and Vipers.
> All I can say is this guy knows how to make an AMC handle. I will give
> credit to very heavy modifications but none the less it is remarkable what
> the article states about the car and the handling even before the heavy
> modifications were done.
> Read it, it's a great article about our AMCs.
> 
> Armand
> 
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