Re: [Amc-list] technical service manuals!

[Glen Hoag <hoag@xxxxxx>]

I noticed that I missed one in my 1958-88 list, so the total is 59 as 
you stated.  Brent's list is "nearly" complete. I have one "special 
TSM" that he doesn't have listed.  It isn't part of the 59 manual 
count; it's the 1975 "what's new" manual.

I believe that M.R stands for Mechanical Repair, but have nothing to 
back that up.  As I mentioned in my previous post, I have a scan of a 
Dyment order form for Eagle manuals that lists several supplements, 
along with their Renault-era part numbers.  I have to dig it up.

Pacer got its own manual in both 1975 and 76.  Pacer was incorporated 
into the main set in 1977.  Of the two Pacer-specific manuals, the 
'76 is probably a little better one to have, as it correctly 
documents the seatbelt warning system (the 1975 book describes the 
modified 1974 seatbelt lockout system, but as far as I can tell, no 
or very few production Pacers ever got it) and the Pacer Rally Pac 
(not available in 1975).

--Glen

At 10:24 AM 12/31/2007, you wrote:
>Brent Havekost has a complete list of all 1936-88 Nash/Rambler/AMC 
>TSMs at http://nashparts.com/Techman/techman.htm. Brent also sells 
>TSMs, use the link above.
>
>There are 38 1936-57 and 59 1958-88
>manuals listed. There are no supplements listed for the 84-88 
>Renault era Eagle manuals (M.R. 251 & 254.... does "M.R." stand for 
>"Manual, Renault"??). Wonder if there are any, or if any additional 
>info was just put out as Technical Service Bulletins? There were few 
>changes made to the Eagle after 84.
>
>I have the 36-38, 42, and 41-48 Nash TSMs, 1950 Nash Supplement, and 
>52 and 55 TSMs (don't have the Nash-Healey supplements or the 55 
>Nash Hydra-Matic supp, but have the Hudson Hydra supp -- both are 
>the same except for cover). From 1956-83 I have everything but a few 
>supplements. No point in having that many unless you're looking for 
>minute detail changes, are a real AMC history buff, or produce an 
>AMC magazine ;>.
>
>For the big cars I'd recommend one from each of these five ranges to 
>cover about 80% of all items. There will be some differences, such 
>as type of disc calipers, but 80% or more will be the same.
>
>58-61, covers most of 56-57 also (56-62 use the same floor pan even 
>though the upper body changed, but there were some changes in 62 to 
>front suspension and torque tube. If you have a 62, you need a 62 
>TSM. 56-57 TSMs have supplements for V-8s, engine part is the same 
>as 58-61 though. You'll want a 56-57 to cover body items if you have 
>one of those)
>63-66
>67-69 (68 begins covering all models in one TSM)
>70-74
>75-78
>
>For Americans:
>58-60
>61-63
>64-69 (64-69 will cover most things, but no V-8s in 64-65. If you 
>have a big car manual for 66+ you should be 80% covered though)
>
>Javelins:
>68-70
>71-74
>
>Hornet/Gremlin
>70-75
>
>Concord/Spirit
>77-83
>
>Pacer
>76-80 (there is a Pacer only 75 TSM)
>
>It's easy to see that a collection of 8-10 TSMs will cover 80% of 
>all the different bodies. Some details will be different, but unless 
>you're looking for elusive little changes from year-to-year there 
>will be no problems. For those things post a message on the list!
>
>
>---------------
>Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:42:00 -0600
>From: Glen Hoag <hoag@xxxxxx>
>
>To the best of my knowledge, there are 58 volumes from 1958 through
>1988, including multi-volume years and supplements.  It doesn't count
>the supplements to MR251 (Eagle Mechanical) and MR254 (Eagle Body)
>
>--
>Frank Swygert
>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>Magazine (AMC)
>For all AMC enthusiasts
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>
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