Re: [Amc-list] Front End Alignment

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Geez, Andrew, take a pill!
Did you read the first line of my reply?
It's what I do for my car and I'm sorry if he can't use it on his particular tire profile.
Too much coffee today?
I run 205/60/15's on the front of my American, I've not noticed and significant wear.
I don't really care much if they do wear a little faster than a "normal" alignment.
I figure the tires will get "old" before they get bald.

Besides which, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I did not see you answer him?!!!
At least I answered the mans question to the best of my knowledge.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
" I was different before people dared to be different" 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> " From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> " 
> " What I do for all my cars takes a willing alignement man and good shop, or 
> yourself and a few gauges!
> " It's very simple.
> " Max castor. run both struts to max, check both sides then reduce the longest 
> side to match the shortest.
> " Camber 0 to -.5 neg is my choice.
> " DD I typically run right side -.5 and left at 0. Makes it track real sweet 
> with normal road crown in this area.
> " Handling is good even with the very slight missmatch side to side, keeping the 
> left tire at 0 to .5+ reduces inside wear due to road crown.
> " Toe, 1/8" in.
> 
> these are fine settings for high profile tires, but armand's rubber-band
> steamrollers won't take kindly to any camber, either static or dynamic
> - eg. caster-induced when steering, or roll-induced when cornering.
> 
> tires roll themselves when subjected to cornering forces, but wide low
> profile tires roll less than high profile radials or bias-plys.  [rim
> width is also a factor here]  less camber is needed to offset this.
> 
> you can obviously adjust the caster to control steering-induced camber
> - a little will help cornering, but too much will effectively turn those
> steamrollers into bicycle tires, producing massive understeer when you
> least want it while grinding one edge of the tire away - but you can't
> easily alter suspension geometry to fix roll-induced camber.
> 
> a massive antiroll bar will solve that problem by resisting any body
> roll, but creates other problems like pothole and bump reaction.
> well, you won't be risking those wheels in potholes...
> 
> i would go with reducing toe in, especially if you've replaced the
> rubber control arm bushings with something stiffer.  i'd go with zero
> camber, and modest caster which i'd gradually increase while watching
> tire wear patterns and cornering response.
> 
> i can also add that i ran with -0.5 camber in my american with
> 205/70r14s on 6" rims and noticed definite tapering of the tread wear
> from inside to outside edges.  it did help cornering, but i wouldn't
> do it again.  and i was warned about it by the shop that did my
> alignment...
> 
> "  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> " From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> " > OK, here's the scoop,
> " > 
> " > New set of Ansen polished aluminum wheels coming in next week......
> " > 
> " > Front will be 17 x 7 with 235/40R-17 tires
> " > 
> " > Rear to be 17 x 8 with 255/45R-17 tires
> " > 
> " > Tires will be radials of course.
> " > 
> " > 70 Javelin all new front suspension bushings, spring pads, tie rod ends,
> " > idler arm, etc.
> " > 
> " > Should I Have the alignment match 1970 Javelin factory specs for a bias ply
> " > tire??
> 
> if you have nothing better...
> 
> " > Or should I request the alignment specs for a 1974 Javelin??  Would this be
> " > for radial tires then??
> 
> more likely, but the suspension geometry in an '82 concord is
> essentially the same and definitely radials by then.  still relatively
> high profile though.
> 
> " > Or if anyone has a good experience to relate about front end alignment on
> " > these cars and the specs they used, please respond.
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