Re: [Amc-list] Amc-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 29

["Garry Nordstrom" <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mark:
I well understand, have 7 acres in Duluth, wild life, deer, bears, you name 
it. Both have master's, I kid to leave next year, 6 car garage full of AMC 
stuff, but do miss teaching, would rather do it free, so no biner's by  the 
Admin.  My goal is to sell this and start an organic farm, have buffalo, and 
Elk.
But losing a shoulder  kinda slows yea down, the pain is hell, I walk out 
and want to sand blast my scrambler, or start on the electric car.
But I know the pain will go away sometime and you as well as I can enjoy our 
years. Always love your input
Garry
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From: <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Amc-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 29


> WOW, Yuns guys write good!
> It's a sad truth, most of us mean well, but do poorly.
> Remember the story on how much "stuff" utilities, water etc; Al Gores 
> "house" burns!
>
> I try, we try. My wife and I live modern, but chose to keep our ranch 
> house when it was paid off, instead of buying up to the house "we 
> deserved". No we have no payments, nada. Utilities are low here in this 
> house and once the kids move out it will be too large. I've only got 3 
> cars worth of garage though. Hmm, need to fix that!
>
> I have half the material for a new outbuilding to store stuff in and it is 
> all reclaimed lumber cast off from road shows at the theatre. Want lumber? 
> Find the nearest university with a theatrical prgram and make friends with 
> the tech people. They build new sets to teach and most of it is given away 
> or trashed after use. To teach they have to build new, therefor they don't 
> save much!
>
> Now If I could just get this pain off my back so I can get stuff done!
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> " I was different before people dared to be different"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
>>
>> >I always wondered why electricity was so (comparatively) cheap in South
>> Carolina. Well, the main producer is the state!
>>
>>
>> Yeah, on the front end.  But you can't total up cost until you see the 
>> back end,
>> too -- there are doubtless state subsidies to the operating agencies. 
>> And don't
>> forget that state agencies also have a benefit not available to the 
>> private
>> sector -- they don't have to pay taxes on sales and many other things. 
>> In many
>> states, that can add up quite rapidly to almost a 20% advantage.
>>
>>
>> >Several dams and at least two nuclear power plants are all owned and run 
>> >by the
>> state. Local Co-ops handle local distribution and service, but all buy 
>> from the
>> state and prices they charge are state regulated. CA deregulated some 
>> years ago
>> with disastrous results!
>>
>>
>> California did *not* deregulate its energy industry; that's simply an 
>> outright
>> lie from the same kind of politicians who said things like "I am not a 
>> crook"
>> and "I did not have sex with that woman".
>>
>> During the 1990s, California deregulated the wholesale price of electric 
>> power
>> but imposed price controls on retail prices. It also outlawed long-term
>> contracts that allowed power distributors to lock in low prices, and it
>> prohibited vertical integration in the electric power industry. The state 
>> is
>> also famous for using regulation to stop virtually all expansion of 
>> electric
>> power supply out of "environmental concerns," guaranteeing an energy 
>> crisis. It
>> is glaringly obvious that California's energy problems were (and are 
>> still
>> being) caused by constant government meddling.
>>
>> http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/mercer2.html
>>
>>
>> >Necessities simply need to be regulated by the government when industry 
>> >proves
>> it can't properly regulate itself.
>>
>>
>> That right there is a mistake.  No petro product is a necessity.  The 
>> human race
>> survived just fine for its entire history right up until about 100 years 
>> ago -- 
>> all of that time basically doing without.
>>
>> There is no "right" to cheap gas.
>>
>>
>> >There's enough competition in markets like food that there seems to be 
>> >no need
>> for regulation. The oil market is apparently small enough for the "good 
>> ol'
>> boys" to stick together and stick it to us. Regulation is the only way to 
>> keep
>> prices from fluctuating as wildly as they have been. Even semi-regulation 
>> would
>> be better than none! By that I mean something like a law preventing more 
>> than a
>> certain percentage price hike in the wake of a natural disaster. Oil 
>> companies
>> showed their true colors in the wake of hurricane Katrina. It takes one
>> heartless SOB to hike prices way up when most of the country is in shock 
>> from a
>> natural disaster like that. There was no fuel down there for a while, so 
>> it
>> wasn't like more was being used, and people that literally lost nearly
>> everything they had needed gas to power generators and such just to 
>> survive.
>> Then to post record profits for the quarter??
>>
>> Oh, come on, Frank.  Exxon's profit percentage no more than the makers of 
>> Viagra
>> and many of the media companies who keep feeding us this "oscene profit" 
>> line:
>>
>> http://finance.aol.com/usw/quotes/stockscreener?c_mc=%3E%3D100B&f_pm=11%2C100&r_
>> dv=&r_nor=20&ord_by=MARKET_CAP&ord_dir=DESC
>>
>> AMC had some good years when its profits approached 20%.  But I doubt any 
>> of us
>> would have decried their success.
>>
>> The truth is that if people had used the Katrina disaster to voluntarily 
>> reduce
>> their petro usage -- canceled unecessary travel, bike to work or work 
>> from home,
>> and walked or biked on errands such as the bank, convenience store, or 
>> whatever,
>> the falling demand would have immediately stabilized prices.  We all 
>> refused -- 
>> you included.  None of us changed our behavior.  Why do you demand 
>> altruism from
>> businessmen that you don't demand of yourself?
>>
>> If we want to look for the heartless SOB's who caused rising prices, the 
>> place
>> to look is the mirror.
>>
>> -- Marc
>>
>>
>>
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