Re: [Amc-list] 727 trany (and for sale stuff in Seattle area)

["Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have a 999 case with CPS from an '00 TJ with 4.0L for sale for $35 if 
anyone is interested. Rear sprague is factory bolted in (rollers dropped out 
awhile back and ended up lost in the rented garage/storage that I am 
cleaning out for the last time) I have the valvebody and pan someplace too. 
(didn't see any extra electronics on it from the outside except the lockup 
computer plug in)

  FSJs came with 4.2L as the only 6 cyl '80 to '88 (360 was the only stock 
V8 '78 to '91) and they came with 727 or 999 (Most 6 cyl Grand Wagoneers 
have a 727, but '81 to '83 Cherokee and Wagoneers could have either. Ltds 
only got the 727)

  I've had both 727 and 999 behind the FSJ 6 cyls (drove one 360 V8 with 
the 999 swapped in and it was NICE to drive, even with 2.72 gears and a 
load!).

My observations:

The 727 was strong, but had much more internal drag and poor gearing first 
and second for the high axle gears. (most '83 up 6 cyl 727 rigs came without 
lockup and had 3.31 gears) The ones with lockup got okay fuel economy, but 
the valvebody was set to soft shift and at low RPM, resulting in shorter 
trans life.

The 999 can be built far better than stock. It's weak points are the 
converter neck (I broke several but under pretty heavy load with no low 
range) and the rear sprague coming loose and spinning in the back of the 
case. Clutches are much smaller than the 727 as well, but that's less 
spinning parasitic drag. The drum seals for the clutches don't like getting 
hot. (they get hard fast) The rear band accumulator tends to score it's bore 
badly unless you replace the cast iron rings with nylon or whatever the 
later ones came with. (makes for better first gear engagements too!)

I have seen one early '68ish DJ style van (big boxy one not built on a 
regular CJ5 frame) with 327 and TH400. It was used to haul mail packages at 
CFB Cold Lake Alberta in the '70s.

In the past couple weeks I have seen quite a few DJ5s for sale for CHEAP! No 
room for the baby jeeps in my life right now though.


From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 727 trany
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200709102110.l8ALAYZ15521@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
"
" I don't know about DJ's, but TF727's didn't appear in FSJ's
until 1980.  6-cylinder FSJ's were availabale after 1980, but I
don't know if they used a 727 or a 999.  Before 1980, they were
TH400's (CJ-7's included).

many dj5s even after '72 were made with aluminum or iron warner
autos.
i think by the late '70s tf equipped ones existed, and that none
ever
had th400s.

there is - or was - a postal jeep web site that details all the
dj
series and which used what engine and tranny.
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